NL100 KK against 4bet

Heiko · #1 11-22-2007, 07:46 PM

hello guys,

i want to post a hand where i dont know who i have to play it in the right way, sorry for ma bad english [img]/images/graemlins/blush.gif[/img]

stats mp3: vpip: 21%, pfr 7%

Everest Poker No-Limit Hold'em, $0.50/$1 (HH Converter by Kreatief)

CO ($192.00)
Button ($107.05)
SB ($228.55) (Hero)
BB ($34.90)
MP2 ($76.60)
MP3 ($213.75)

Preflop: Hero is SB with K[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img], K[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img]
MP2 raises to $2.00, MP3 raises to $5.00, 2 folds, Hero raises to $18.00, 2 folds, MP3 raises to $31.00, Hero ????

raise, call or maybe fold?

h_ven · #2 11-22-2007, 07:50 PM

This is a tough spot as a 4-bet min raise will usually result in villain flipping over AA. Call and hope to spike a king, I don't think you can fold KK PF.

JFsports · #3 11-22-2007, 07:53 PM

21/7, how many hands is that over? I would call and seriously consider folding the flop. I'm like everyone else here and 'never fold KK pf' but this is a spot where I find it so hard to see how he could have AK or QQ.

SlowRoll · #4 11-22-2007, 08:00 PM

Given you are deep, he doesn't seem aggressive + 2 min-re-raises, i call and see a flop. You can set mine here.

loosbastard · #5 11-22-2007, 08:01 PM

I normally hate these threads, but this really is a pretty sick spot given stacks and villain's stats. I'd like calling so much more if we had position...but given how small his raise is, I think it's the only option really.

Heiko · #6 11-22-2007, 08:02 PM

21/7 over 100 hands. it was the first time i played with him and i dont see him making some crazy moves.

Heiko · #7 11-23-2007, 09:22 AM

so here are the result. i decided to call and hope to hit a king because im sure he has aa.

Everest Poker No-Limit Hold'em, $0.50/$1 (HH Converter by Kreatief)

CO ($192.00)
Button ($107.05)
SB ($228.55) (Hero)
BB ($34.90)
MP2 ($76.60)
MP3 ($213.75)

Preflop: Hero is SB with K[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img], K[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img]
MP2 raises to $2.00, MP3 raises to $5.00, 2 folds, Hero raises to $18.00, 2 folds, MP3 raises to $31.00, Hero calls $13.00,

Flop: 4[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img], 2[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img], J[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] ( $70.5 )
Hero checks, MP3 bets $40.00, 1 folds,

Results:
Outcome: MP3 wins $62.00

sh58 · #8 11-23-2007, 09:36 AM

yeah, i like calling here and seeing a flop

sightless · #9 11-23-2007, 10:11 AM

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so here are the result. i decided to call and hope to hit a king because im sure he has aa.

Everest Poker No-Limit Hold'em, $0.50/$1 (HH Converter by Kreatief)

CO ($192.00)
Button ($107.05)
SB ($228.55) (Hero)
BB ($34.90)
MP2 ($76.60)
MP3 ($213.75)

Preflop: Hero is SB with K[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img], K[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img]
MP2 raises to $2.00, MP3 raises to $5.00, 2 folds, Hero raises to $18.00, 2 folds, MP3 raises to $31.00, Hero calls $13.00,

Flop: 4[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img], 2[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img], J[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] ( $70.5 )
Hero checks, MP3 bets $40.00, 1 folds,

Results:
Outcome: MP3 wins $62.00

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I have a problem with spots like that. I decide that I call, cause I have to set mine. Then villain bets small on all three streets and each street i think, "Well my qq only got to be good here line one time in four" and after he shows me aces at the showdown i realize a big chunk of my stack is one ): I wonder how to better avoid them

sh58 · #10 11-23-2007, 10:51 AM

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so here are the result. i decided to call and hope to hit a king because im sure he has aa.

Everest Poker No-Limit Hold'em, $0.50/$1 (HH Converter by Kreatief)

CO ($192.00)
Button ($107.05)
SB ($228.55) (Hero)
BB ($34.90)
MP2 ($76.60)
MP3 ($213.75)

Preflop: Hero is SB with K[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img], K[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img]
MP2 raises to $2.00, MP3 raises to $5.00, 2 folds, Hero raises to $18.00, 2 folds, MP3 raises to $31.00, Hero calls $13.00,

Flop: 4[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img], 2[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img], J[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] ( $70.5 )
Hero checks, MP3 bets $40.00, 1 folds,

Results:
Outcome: MP3 wins $62.00

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I have a problem with spots like that. I decide that I call, cause I have to set mine. Then villain bets small on all three streets and each street i think, "Well my qq only got to be good here line one time in four" and after he shows me aces at the showdown i realize a big chunk of my stack is one ): I wonder how to better avoid them

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