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Old 09-12-2007, 07:52 PM
Kirkrrr Kirkrrr is offline
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Default 40/80 Ocean\'s, I river the \"nuts\"

Full game, BB seems bad and fairly unimaginative. UTG is very solid and his UTG open range is like AQs+ with perhaps 57s mixed in 5% of the time.
I'm UTG+1 w. A,Ko and have been running like God and killing the game, playing fairly tight and straightforward.

UTG 3bets, I call, 2 more callers, BB calls.

Flop: 449r

BB checks, UTG checks, I donk it, everyone calls.

Turn: 9

checked around

River:A

BB checks, UTG bets, I call, fold to BB who raises, UTG folds, I let out a heartfelt "Dammit!!" and... ?

Kirk

PS. Since I know it will come up, I 4bet AK in that spot virtually always but chose not to vs that particular player.
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Old 09-12-2007, 07:57 PM
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Default Re: 40/80 Ocean\'s, I river the \"nuts\"

Easy fold. Also an easy raise when UTG bets though. And bet the turn.

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Didn't even see the weird preflop action but my answer is still the same no matter what happened preflop. You should expect to never be behind the tight player and you should expect the moron to be a moron and have 2 cards. If he has a 4/9 which he apparently did then fantastic, he can easily have 56 here and you will win more by getting the extra bet from the tight guy than you will lose when the moron has a full house in the long run.
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Old 09-12-2007, 07:59 PM
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Default Re: 40/80 Ocean\'s, I river the \"nuts\"

I am so confused by the preflop action in this hand
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Old 09-12-2007, 11:04 PM
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Default Re: 40/80 Ocean\'s, I river the \"nuts\"

Sorry, I rarely post limit hands so my post is probably sub-par.

Pre-flop: UTG makes it 80, I just call, 2 more callers after me, SB folds, BB calls 40 more. 5 to the flop. Does that help?

Kirk
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Old 09-13-2007, 02:38 AM
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Default Re: 40/80 Ocean\'s, I river the \"nuts\"

cold calling with AKo is gross. save that play for NL or some other silly game.
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Old 09-13-2007, 08:23 AM
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Default Re: 40/80 Ocean\'s, I river the \"nuts\"

so UTG raises and you coldcall next in? in limit this is an insta3bet. you want to minimize the field with your hand.

your flop bet is meh.

turn is not a bad card for you. i might actually bet it in some scenarios, but i'm not sure how many handed it is right now. 3handed i would bet.

river, you need to raise the UTG bet.
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Old 09-13-2007, 09:02 AM
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Default Re: 40/80 Ocean\'s, I river the \"nuts\"

If BB is that unimaginative, then the odds that's he bluff-raising the river without a boat are about 100-1, right? Seems like a fold to me.

Like all the other posters have said, a 3-bet PF would have probably saved you this mess and won you the pot.
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Old 09-13-2007, 10:41 AM
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Default Re: 40/80 Ocean\'s, I river the \"nuts\"

I disagree with raising river. You usually have UTG beat, but you're laying odds to the field on a double paired board, which is ungood.
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