a few interesting river stats

[tolbiny]

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I find it interesting that BZ's W$SD when just called is substantially lower than the average. BZ, are you paying off river raises more than the rest of us?

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yes, i really pay off a lot (and maybe too much?)

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Nah, your probably not paying off enough

[Erik W]

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are you paying off river raises more than the rest of us?


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Calling river raises is not part of that stat.

[baronzeus]

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are you paying off river raises more than the rest of us?


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Calling river raises is not part of that stat.

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erik,

i was under the impression that any time i call on the river goes under that stat. that way if i bet and call a raise, it goes under my 'bet/raised/checkraised' stat and my 'just called' stat. is that wrong?

[Erik W]

You are correct and it is what I meant but it came out a little vague.

The bet should come in under bet/raised and your call of a raise should come in under call hence if you pay off to river raises a lot it would not change your W$SD for bet/raise.

I also agree with you that 70-75 should be a good number preferable in the lower regions.
Stox is for example 70 if I remember correctly(yes I bought his db and I recommend everyone to do it too).

Lets say you value bet all your hands that have 55% to 100% chance to win and then you run a stone called bluff 10% of the the times on the river which you have 0% chance to win if called. That would make the W$SD something like = ((55+100)/2) * 10/11 = 70.5

I think that is a good number to reference too and it seems like a number some really good players have or just above it.

[Rudis]

a. 1.6
b. 69.9
c. 33.3
d. 28.9
e. 38.9

[TeeJayOrTJ]

37K at 20/40 6max

a) 1.12
b) 76.42
c) 22.04
d) 27.58
e) 42.09

a) river aggression
b) W$SD when bet/raised/checkraised river
c) folded to river bet
d) W$SD when just called
e) went to showdown