Bubble Situation What Do You Do?????????

[sedtheicon]

Small Stakes MTT bubble is about to break when this happens.

Poker Stars, $1 + $0.10 NL Hold'em Tournament, 150/300 Blinds, 9 Players


CO: 28,405
BTN: 8,615
Hero (SB): 7,215
BB: 17,054
UTG: 24,976
UTG+1: 6,285
UTG+2: 6,922
MP1: 8,497
MP2: 3,150

Pre-Flop: (675) Qh Qc dealt to Hero (SB)
2 folds, UTG+2 calls 300, 4 folds, Hero raises to 7,190 and is All-In, BB folds, UTG+2 calls 6,597 and is All-In

Do You like my shove in the SB and Whats the limper calling with here????? Do you like his call and is shoving here plus EV???

[gtpitch]

Since I have seen it probably more than 1,000 times now recently I put the limper on AK. And since you posted this here I'm assuming he hit his A or K.

But in all seriousness.... yes I think that a shove here is appropriate. You have tons of equity of his "normal" limping range from EP.

[ZenMusician]

If you are looking to sneak into the money and win 07¢,
then by all means do not shove.

Otherwise, there really is no other option...I don't think
you want to flat and let A2s see a flop.

-ZEN

[JammyDodga]

Whats wrong with a normal raise? I know its not great playing OOP, but QQ is a pretty decent hand to be doing it with...

[gtpitch]

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Whats wrong with a normal raise? I know its not great playing OOP, but QQ is a pretty decent hand to be doing it with...

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The problem with a "normal" raise to say ~T2000 or so would be committing 25% of his stack. If an A or K flops it would be very difficult to play this hand OOP as that flop would most likely hit a hand in his range. At this stage in the tournament with the bubble approaching I think it is much better to be a little more aggressive rather than commit chips without a good post flop plan.

[JammyDodga]

Aaah, the old, "I don't really know how to play this later so I'll just push cos its easy plan"... gotcha...

[gtpitch]

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Aaah, the old, "I don't really know how to play this later so I'll just push cos its easy plan"... gotcha...

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Not that at all... its the 'ol why would I raise without a plan move. Approaching the bubble why commit 25% of your stack with the intention to c\f a "scary" flop?

[WJL]

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Do You like my shove in the SB and Whats the limper calling with here????? Do you like his call and is shoving here plus EV???

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You got exactly what you wanted; 3rd best PF hand in poker against a random hand for all his chips. If he got lucky, NH GG. You aren't going to win much money in MTTs passing up flips like that in this situation. If the stacks were deeper, you could consider a different approach, but not at M=16.

[hagbard celine]

i don't know that the intention is necessarily to c/f a scary flop, but rather to not fold out hands you have absolutely crushed, hands that might call a reasonable raise, but will fold to a shove.

At this level, however, I doubt that many Villains are going to fold a hand to a shove that they'd call a reasonable raise with, so I'm shoving here.

[levAA]

I also think shoving 23BB over an UTG+2 limp is a little overplayed.

An open-limper can of course be a slow-played big hand like KK+ or (as seen often lately) AK, but most of the time this is a medium or even small PP, or some kind of drawing hands like QJs.

So we want the majority of these hands to come along.

If we over-push here we achieve the exact opposite as we wanted to do - we chase off the weak hands.

QQ is one of the easiest hands to play postflop, so as jammydodga already pointed out making a normal sized raise of about 1k is more than enough.

I think you loose a lot of value by over-pushing big hands in spots like this.