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Old 10-31-2007, 11:23 PM
Kinslayer44 Kinslayer44 is offline
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Default 25NL: 2pair vs lots of aggression

Not sure what I should do here, after BB raises me the second time he has to have a pretty strong hand, pretty much any made hand beats me here as I doubt he'd do this with TP or an overpair, but he could have a pair + draw or similiar hand as well.

Poker Stars, $0.10/$0.25 NL Hold'em Cash Game, 8 Players
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Hero (SB): $41.25
BB: $41.55
UTG: $23.65
UTG+1: $14.70
MP1: $19.50
MP2: $20.50
CO: $15.95
BTN: $24.30

Pre-Flop: 6[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] 8[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] dealt to Hero (SB)
3 folds, MP2 calls $0.25, 2 folds, Hero calls $0.15, BB checks

Flop: ($0.75) 9[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] 6[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] 8[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] (3 Players)
<font color="red">Hero bets $0.75</font>, <font color="red">BB raises to $2.50</font>, MP2 folds, <font color="red">Hero raises to $7</font>, <font color="red">BB raises to $18</font>, <font color="red">Hero ???
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Old 10-31-2007, 11:51 PM
random50 random50 is offline
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Default Re: 25NL: 2pair vs lots of aggression

No read? Assuming not, almost every time I've seen this betting pattern, *particularly* from a full buy-in or higher stack, it means "please come over the top all-in" and 2 pair is well and truly beat. Hell, *sets* are often beat. Given he's just checked in from the BB I suspect he's landed the straight (most likely) or possibly higher 2 pair rather than the set.

However, I'll be very interested to see how people answer this. I haven't seen this kind of betting all that much yet so I'm very curious whether my view has been incorrectly distorted by the results.
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Old 10-31-2007, 11:52 PM
BadBigBabar BadBigBabar is offline
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Default Re: 25NL: 2pair vs lots of aggression

a fold is fine imo; he has us crushed a ton
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Old 11-01-2007, 08:38 AM
WantToLearn WantToLearn is offline
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Default Re: 25NL: 2pair vs lots of aggression

Fold. This is not the right spot to get stacked and then say "I knew it"...
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Old 11-01-2007, 09:27 AM
AlexB182 AlexB182 is offline
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Default Re: 25NL: 2pair vs lots of aggression

Not easy to release this in blind vs blind battle but you have to give respect to a 4 bet. I think he has you crushed with a set, a flopped straight and even bigger two pair is his range!
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Old 11-01-2007, 10:48 AM
Brimstead Brimstead is offline
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Default Re: 25NL: 2pair vs lots of aggression

even in battle of the blinds i think you need to let this go... i would guess he's flopped the straight, or maybe he has 96 or 86. bottom 2 cannot take the heat in this spot.
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Old 11-01-2007, 11:19 AM
Kinslayer44 Kinslayer44 is offline
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Default Re: 25NL: 2pair vs lots of aggression

thx guys, here I pushed hoping he'd have one of the draws, but he had the straight and I didn't fill up. I figured this is what you'd say, i've still got to adjust from MTTs where this is the nuts [img]/images/graemlins/smile.gif[/img]
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