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Old 12-24-2006, 03:01 AM
ckj ckj is offline
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Default TT Should I bet the turn?

Last hand of a session at .50/1. I just moved up three days ago so I'm definately unknown but these levels are no different and at times feel easier than .25/.50. My image should be a taggy and I have folded hands for a few orbits before this.

Since this was the last hand I just wanted to get to showdown and definately didn't want to fold. Not sure if I would have folded otherwise but maybe. Villain is 47/0/1.64 over 66 hands. I hadn't seen him out of line.

Full Tilt Poker
Limit Holdem Ring game
Limit: $0.50/$1
9 players
Converter

Stack sizes:
Hero: $20.85
UTG+1: $45.35
MP1: $21.40
MP2: $25.30
MP3: $26.25
CO: $29.50
Button: $31.25
SB: $4.25
BB: $24.45

Pre-flop: (9 players) Hero is UTG with T[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] T[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img]
<font color="#00688B">Hero raises</font>, 4 folds, CO calls, Button folds, SB calls, BB calls.

Flop: J[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] 5[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] 2[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] (8SB, 4 players)
<font color="#00688B">SB bets</font>, BB folds, <font color="#00688B">Hero raises</font>, CO folds, SB calls.

Turn: 3[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] (6BB, 2 players)
SB checks, Hero checks.

River: 7[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] (6BB, 2 players)
<font color="#00688B">SB bets</font>, Hero calls.

Results:
Final pot: 8BB


Tell me if you liked it, hated it, what? I figured if he was bluffing, the turn raise would kick him out, if he wasn't this would get to showdown cheap. And I might induce a bluff on the end.

Edit: sorry guys the turn and river got chopped off. Fixed now.
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Old 12-24-2006, 03:08 AM
RemyXO RemyXO is offline
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Default Re: TT Should I bet the turn?

WTF ... ? Doth my eyz deceiveth me? I don't see jack after preflop. Might be grey goose's fault.
Yeah, bet the crap outta that turn, whatever it was [img]/images/graemlins/grin.gif[/img]

EDIT: Now that I can see the hand, I stick to my line of betting the turn.
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Old 12-24-2006, 03:09 AM
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Default Re: TT Should I bet the turn?

Def bet here and cap if poosible.
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Old 12-24-2006, 03:43 AM
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Default Re: TT Should I bet the turn?

Bet. If the tens are still good they are susceptible to overcards and you don't want to give him a free one.
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Old 12-24-2006, 04:02 AM
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Default Re: TT Should I bet the turn?

nice flop raise, bet the turn.
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Old 12-24-2006, 04:15 AM
CrdShrk6 CrdShrk6 is offline
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Default Re: TT Should I bet the turn?

Well nice play on the flop. It was a raise or fold situation. His bet and then call when you raised on the flop gives you information about his hand. He possibly had a Jack and didn't want to give free cards himself. If you were going to show it down any way you should bet the turn. and when he checks the river you check behind him. He could have a middle pair but I doubt he would have bet the river. He maybe was planning to check raise the turn with a set of a jack. I put him on a jack and would have folded on the river.
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Old 12-24-2006, 04:28 AM
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Default Re: TT Should I bet the turn?

crd, a river fold is very bad here.
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Old 12-24-2006, 05:43 AM
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Default Re: TT Should I bet the turn?

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He maybe was planning to check raise the turn with a set of a jack. I put him on a jack and would have folded on the river.

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I highly doubt he has a set of jacks. It would be a very odd way of playing them to say the least.
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Old 12-24-2006, 01:14 PM
Aaron W. Aaron W. is offline
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Default Re: TT Should I bet the turn?

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I hadn't seen him out of line.

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Easy bet-fold on the turn.

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And I might induce a bluff on the end.

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Did you forget about
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I hadn't seen him out of line.

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?????

Players who don't get out of line often don't bluff the river often. And they don't value bet their weak middle pairs. Furthermore, they don't bluff check-raise the turn.

I know you think you want to see a showdown with this hand, but you really don't want to see it when paying off a river bet.
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Old 12-24-2006, 06:29 PM
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Default Re: TT Should I bet the turn?

So in this scenario, it's standard to bet turn and checkbehind river for a cheap showdown? I would imagine, this would get things about as cheap as possible, while knocking out any bluffers with overcards.

I'm also bad at bet-folding, that's definately something I need to work on.
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