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Old 11-22-2007, 01:38 AM
JSampras1 JSampras1 is offline
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Default Stars 1/2 - Are my stats terrible?

I think i am playing well, but i am getting STOMPED. I must be doing something wrong, but i really have no idea what it is.

Over the last 14000 hands i have the following stats:

VPIP 15.05%, Vol from SB 25.11%, Folded SB to steal 62.40%, Att. to steal blinds: 30.29%, Won $ WSF: 37.06%

Went to SD: 32.08%, Won $ at SD 51.72%, PF raise 8.97%,
Flop AF: 3.47, Turn AF 2.57, River AF 1.35, Total AF 2.64

This may be a little skewed because over the last 4k hands i'm down $500, and i'm negative with AK, AKs, AQ, AJs, ATs, QK, QKs, QQ, TT etc so that doesn't help.

But i feel over 14k hands i should be positive. Is there anything glaring about this stat line that indicates a major leak somewhere?
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Old 11-22-2007, 01:49 AM
Aaron W. Aaron W. is offline
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Default Re: Stars 1/2 - Are my stats terrible?

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VPIP 15.05%, Vol from SB 25.11%

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Too tight

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Flop AF: 3.47

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Probably not enough calling, but could also be too much bet-folding.
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Old 11-22-2007, 01:54 AM
JSampras1 JSampras1 is offline
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Default Re: Stars 1/2 - Are my stats terrible?

I almost NEVER bet/fold the flop. Usually i will just call and fold the turn even if i think i'm beat. But I thought I shouldn't be just calling very much on the flop. If i have TP etc, shouldn't i be raising or folding? What's the point of calling with something like mid pair so i'll have no idea where i am and will probably be bet at again on the turn?

15% VPIP is too tight?

This is my VPIP per position

7: 9.81%, 6: 8.73%, 5:9.03%, 4:10.73%, 3:10.95%, 2:13.86%, 1:16.99%, Button:21.24%

Are u suggesting i should open limp small pp's or Ax in early position? I used to limp KJs and KTs until i realized that KJs and KTs were costing me more money than any other hand. I think open limping those are really weak plays.

I also was raising AJ and ATs utg. Then i realized those were my next 2 biggest losing hands.

If i'm open limping a7s, and i get raised, do i just check fold a high flops? What about 44? Do i check fold low flops, or do i play a crap pair out of position where AK will lose as little as possible and QQ will make as much as possible?
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Old 11-22-2007, 03:11 AM
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Default Re: Stars 1/2 - Are my stats terrible?

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Are u suggesting i should open limp small pp's or Ax in early position? I used to limp KJs and KTs until i realized that KJs and KTs were costing me more money than any other hand. I think open limping those are really weak plays.

I also was raising AJ and ATs utg.

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Sometimes it's not the preflop that is costing you money. It could be postflop play with these hands that are costing you money. and KJs is a money maker.

Anyway, I reckon that while it might be ok for your sample size to look at the overall stats, but it might not be too accurate to judge for individual hands, as the sample for each hand would be too little. I was making a deficit with KKs when I had about 5000+ hands.
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Old 11-22-2007, 03:31 AM
Douglas Leslie Douglas Leslie is offline
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Default Re: Stars 1/2 - Are my stats terrible?

I'm surprised that the attempt to steal blinds percentage is so low if you steal with the hands that you described earlier in the post. I would expect it to be nearer forty percent.
What is your win/loss ratio like when you steal with marginal hands? Is it not the case that stealing with weak hands at low stakes is less profitable because - a. you are more likely to get called and b. the rake is proportionately higher than at higher stakes.
I think that you might be calling too many raises from the small blind.
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Old 11-22-2007, 07:05 AM
JSampras1 JSampras1 is offline
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Default Re: Stars 1/2 - Are my stats terrible?

I know this isn't the greatest place to ask, but how do i sort stats to find only the hands i raised pf etc? I tried but i can't seem to figure it out. Oh well.

Also my big problem is so many pots are raised that yes, KJs is a money maker, but lets say i limp/call a raise, if the flop is K high i will probably either win 1 small bet or lose several big bets, which is terrible.

I still don't know how to get around that. I will keep workign on it though. Thanks!
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Old 11-22-2007, 01:58 AM
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Default Re: Stars 1/2 - Are my stats terrible?

yay a stat post that has >10K hands, I'll reply to this one.

What limits u play? 15% VPIP seems a little tight. Also I'm wondering if maybe ur cbetting tenancies could be increasing ur flop AGF.
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Old 11-22-2007, 02:03 AM
JSampras1 JSampras1 is offline
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Default Re: Stars 1/2 - Are my stats terrible?

Stars 1/2 as it says in the title.

Yeah, i basically c bet every time i raise. Maybe i shouldn't be doing that, but what do i do with overcards if i'm not c-betting? Should i be check/folding or what?

I know it's annoying to put stat things up, but I was doing the "i'm getting such crappy luck" thing, and then i realized I should shut up, and if i'm losing it means i suck. If it's really annoying, i'll just delete the post.

I know my VPIP is tight, but what if anything should i be open limping? Most of my games are 3-4 ppl/flop and there is a fair amount of raising, so i really do not want to be OOP with weak/dominated hands.
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Old 11-22-2007, 02:08 AM
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Default Re: Stars 1/2 - Are my stats terrible?

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I know it's annoying to put stat things up, but I was doing the "i'm getting such crappy luck" thing, and then i realized I should shut up, and if i'm losing it means i suck. If it's really annoying, i'll just delete the post.


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nah u didn't get what I meant, it's a good thing that u posted ur stats after 10K hands, most new posters wait till they hit a downswing after 2K or even 1K.

As for ur cbet with OC's question it's too difficult to give a specific answer, due to the nature of poker. The best way to find out is to make a "do i cbet to often" post & show a few spots where u were uncomfortable/unsure, even a quiz would work.
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Old 11-22-2007, 02:21 AM
JSampras1 JSampras1 is offline
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Default Re: Stars 1/2 - Are my stats terrible?

Cool thanks! Can i just ask about my VPIP. I don't know if you saw but i posted my VPIP for every position? Do you think i should play more hands across the board than that?

I just do not like open limping very much because i'll get isolated a lot of the time and QJs or 55 plays well multiway, but not very well against 1 raiser, or 1 raiser + caller.

Any advice on where i should loosen up? Also, what do you think about 30% steal pos raise.

Right now i'm raising basically 55 or better, any A, K decent q, or 2 cards above 78 or 98 on button, and something like 66+, a6 or k8+, q7s+, j8s+ etc in CO depending on who the blinds are. My CO stats are lower than my button or hijack stats, so i'm wondering if i'm too loose from the CO.
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