PokerEV Graphs

[Mr_Pathetic]

Many of you find these two graphs useless and most of you are blind at the power of this program and instead think it is just a program to help you feel better when running bad.

1. Game Analysis graph.
If your green line is lower then the other two then it is highly likely you depend on showdowns to win and pretty much do a lot of folding otherwise. Is this ok? For some yes, for others no. It could mean you are weak tight, it could mean you are cold situationally in non-showdown pots.

On the contrary, if your green line is higher then you probably are very successful at recognizing weakness and stealing the pot. Or you could be getting into favorable situations that have nothing to do with how you play. You might not be getting paid off on your made hands. I think you get the idea.

Now here is something you should do. This is where this graph gets mad interesting. There are FILTERS FOR THIS GRAPH! USE THEM! Positon OTB: filter for positions 0-3 then 4-5 and see what happens. Filter for different types of hands on different streets and see what happens. Use this graph to plug leaks and stop whining and saying they mean nothing. Filter for how you do with a straight draw on the board, filter for how you do with flush draws, made flushes, baby flushes, 2nd nut straights, etc. Fitler for how you do in certain size pots. 0-20bb, 20-40bb, etc. I have left some stuff out but you get the point now so analyze your game and stop saying the game analysis graph is useless!!! The filters are there for a reason NOW USE THEM!

2. All in graphs. Use this for luck in all in situations.

here is a filter pic so that you actually can see the power of this program!


If you want to get good at this game then start reviewing all your hands in PT after every session or shut up when your results suck. I am tired of reading it!

TAKE RESPONSIBILITY FOR YOUR RESULTS AND STOP SAYING PROGRAMS LIKE THIS ARE WORTHLESS BECAUSE YOUR GRAPH LOOKS LIKE [censored]!

PS: I was guilty of all this too until someone brutally told me what the deal is and I got up one morning, looked in the mirror, and got comfortable with the fact that yes I suck balls. It is like an alcoholic admitting truthfully that he does in fact have a problem.

[members_only]

Phew, I thought this was going to be even more of those [censored] graphs.

Nice post.

[ghostface]

I'm an alcoholic. Will you coach me?

[LiveNow]

tl dr, these graphs seem really useless fwiw

[kaz2107]

just skimmed it as imo u cant learn n e thing from them in reality just as most stats n graphs r. but r u sayin that people think they r worthless because it shows they run bad?!?!?!? i was under the impression that they use this to help them not take the blame and just say "well my EV graph shows i run bad so i am obv running bad. now i can continue to play my same game and wait till i run better"

kinda weird i guess

[NL Newbie]

Think im gonna stay clear from this, untill i learn WTF any of it means.

Even the best size Vs Equity seems rather odd/misleading/perhaps useless.

DOWNLOAD IT HERE BTW http://pokerevsoftware.com/download.html

[kolotoure]

I play against ranges not the hand villain happens to have

[Mr_Pathetic]

I am saying people think the game analysis graphs are useless because they just look at the graph, see their green line in the dumpster and see the other two and never filter to see where the green line drops. So they think the program sucks. Well the graph in its entirety doesn't do much but paint a broad picture but once you start filtering it down using all the filters provided you really start to see where your play is lacking. For example, in pots up to 20bb I suck hard. It is just the simple fact that people are lazy and do not attempt to learn anything about this stuff.

[Micro Donk]

so i suck hard at 5-20BB pots? i feel like i fold too much to c-bets being raised anyway...

[ICMoney]

Interesting prog.

Maybe you could go through a few filters that helped your game?

I did it once and was running just about at expectation.

I said, "Oh, guess poker isn't rigged" and didn't use it after that.