QQ Top Set Deep-Stacked vs. Keyser - Page 2

orange · #11 11-08-2007, 07:27 PM

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He's seriosuly nitty when it comes to big pots

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actually just saying this from the time keyser runner flushed me. [img]/images/graemlins/tongue.gif[/img]

Keyser. · #12 11-09-2007, 01:24 AM

bump. I'm curious why you didn't elect to c/r flop. I'm not sure if I've ever led into a preflop reraiser and I don't know if this is a good spot for it.

spivey · #13 11-09-2007, 01:36 AM

being deep, I could expect a TAG to check back a lot of hands that would call a lead here. I like the donk. As played, I fold - I think you almsot always need the board to pair.

TheJokerIsWild · #14 11-09-2007, 02:06 AM

How about checking the turn and possibly calling? Odds not good enough?

pineapple888 · #15 11-09-2007, 03:25 AM

This all looks fine. I really can't see checking at any point. Could be AA or KK with a club, could just be something ghey. If he played AK this way, flatting the flop, well then he gets my money if I whiff the river.

annex21 · #16 11-09-2007, 03:52 AM

As played this is a definite fold without reads, AK is a huge part of both players ranges, bluffing here is suicidal.

I don't really like the line you took but it's a pretty brutal board to be OOP on esp after the turn. I prefer check/raising the flop and then folding to a 3bet or c/fing turn if he calls. AA, KK, AQ, JJ, TT just aren't betting the turn very often esp after you c/r.

pineapple888 · #17 11-09-2007, 04:18 AM

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As played this is a definite fold without reads, AK is a huge part of both players ranges

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CO vs. Button deep, both 2+2ers, I think "huge" is a huge exaggeration.

spivey · #18 11-09-2007, 11:56 AM

If you c/r flop, folding to a 3 bet is insanity.

olliejen · #19 11-09-2007, 01:10 PM

If he knows who you are and you know who he is and his pre-flop 3-betting range in a likely HU pot is only AA, KK I think you should fold. If he could be floating you, 4-bet.

I have no idea how Keyser plays but I'd guess he'd open his range just a little bit w/ position on you, especially if he's got a "tightish" image.

That said, when he flat-calls your flop bet, what is your thinking at that stage? To me that screams strength and/or a nut-flush draw and the subsequent push is Keyser freerolling you.

GTSamIAm · #20 11-09-2007, 01:32 PM

I had no idea this guy was a 2p2'er. If I did I would have four-bet QQ in a heartbeat. I was really hoping to bet-3bet the flop when I led. Check-calling the turn is about the most brilliant and practical thing I've heard. The way I played I should have folded the turn, but I must not have been playing my best and got married to my hand, scared money, late at night, excuses, etc.