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Old 09-08-2007, 01:22 PM
Nogatsira Nogatsira is offline
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Default NL25, hitting top pair against a TAG

PokerStars No-Limit Hold'em, $0.25 BB (6 handed) Hand History Converter Tool from FlopTurnRiver.com (Format: 2+2 Forums)

SB ($25.10)
BB ($25)
UTG ($14.75)
MP ($34.45)
CO ($25)
Hero ($28.50)

Preflop: Hero is Button with A[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img], K[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img].
<font color="#666666">1 fold</font>, <font color="#CC3333">MP raises to $1</font>, <font color="#666666">1 fold</font>, Hero calls $1, <font color="#666666">1 fold</font>, BB calls $0.75.

Flop: ($3.10) K[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img], 7[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img], 4[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(3 players)</font>
BB checks, <font color="#CC3333">MP bets $1.75</font>, Hero calls $1.75, BB folds.

Turn: ($6.60) 7[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(2 players)</font>
<font color="#CC3333">MP bets $3</font>, Hero calls $3.

River: ($12.60) 9[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(2 players)</font>
<font color="#CC3333">MP bets $5.5</font>, Hero calls $5.50.

Final Pot: $23.60

So hows my line here?
Villain is 12.5/12.5/5

I know I shouldnt post results or anything but I'm having such a huge downswing and offcorse he showed pocket 9s in this hand. So did I had to reraise at a certain point in this hand?
I'm getting totaly lost..
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Old 09-08-2007, 01:26 PM
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Default Re: NL25, hitting top pair against a TAG

raise flop to $5-$6 , don't let him catch up
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Old 09-08-2007, 01:27 PM
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Default Re: NL25, hitting top pair against a TAG

Raise preflop, raise flop, raise turn.
You called with AK 4 times with TPTK lol
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Old 09-08-2007, 01:30 PM
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Default Re: NL25, hitting top pair against a TAG

This is a must 3bet situation IMO. As bad as you feel during downswings don't let them affect your play, this hand screams playing not to lose, instead of playing to win.

Unless Villain played back at your for whatever reason before the river, you should have had control of the hand on every street after your pre flop 3bet.
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Old 09-08-2007, 01:31 PM
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Raise preflop, raise flop, raise turn.
You called with AK 4 times with TPTK lol

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Whats so "lol" about that?
I figured if he had AA or AK he would probably bet more, I rather let him bluff off his chips with QQ or whatever he's holding then to get his weaker holding out.
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Old 09-08-2007, 01:32 PM
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Raise preflop, raise flop, raise turn.
You called with AK 4 times with TPTK lol

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Whats so "lol" about that?

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You got the third (fourth) best hand in NL holdem and u're not raising.
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Old 09-08-2007, 01:33 PM
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This is a must 3bet situation IMO. As bad as you feel during downswings don't let them affect your play, this hand screams playing not to lose, instead of playing to win.

Unless Villain played back at your for whatever reason before the river, you should have had control of the hand on every street after your pre flop 3bet.

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It was indeed more a hand I was playing not to loose. His low vpip just screamed AA AK KK QQ JJ, stuff like that.
Thats why I just called him down, he could be hanging himself with QQ, KQ or already had me beat the entire time.
And reraising and facing a shove on the turn would cost me as much as calling down his rather small bets.

But lets say I 3-bet him preflop and pot the flop. How do I continue after he calls and checks it to me on the turn?
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Old 09-08-2007, 01:34 PM
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I rather let him bluff off his chips with QQ or whatever he's holding then to get his weaker holding out.

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Play big pot with big hands and hope your villian likes his hand, too.
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Old 09-08-2007, 01:35 PM
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It was indeed more a hand I was playing not to loose. His low vpip just screamed AA AK KK QQ JJ, stuff like that.
Thats why I just called him down, he could be hanging himself with QQ, KQ or already had me beat the entire time.
And reraising and facing a shove on the turn would cost me as much as calling down his rather small bets.

But lets say I 3-bet him preflop and pot the flop. How do I continue after he calls and checks it to me on the turn?

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Pot, pot, pot, pot!
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Old 09-08-2007, 01:37 PM
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It was indeed more a hand I was playing not to loose. His low vpip just screamed AA AK KK QQ JJ, stuff like that.
Thats why I just called him down, he could be hanging himself with QQ, KQ or already had me beat the entire time.
And reraising and facing a shove on the turn would cost me as much as calling down his rather small bets.

But lets say I 3-bet him preflop and pot the flop. How do I continue after he calls and checks it to me on the turn?

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Pot, pot, pot, pot!

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IMHO you seem to overplay TPTK against tight players.
What hand would a tight player call a 3bet with and call a potsized bet with on the flop? As far as I know I could be drawing dead here.
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