FTP 1k: QQ oop vs raise and reraise

[grafyx]

Villian is unknown to me, but has not done anything out of line yet. Should I fold this hand somewhere before the river?

Full Tilt Poker
No Limit Holdem Ring game
Blinds: $30/$60
8 players
Converter

Stack sizes:
UTG: $4670
UTG+1: $2840
MP1: $3235
MP2: $3100
CO: $3245
Button: $3790
Hero: $5645
BB: $8845

Pre-flop: (8 players) Hero is SB with Q[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] Q[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img]
UTG folds, UTG+1 calls, MP1 folds, <font color="#cc0000">MP2 raises to $180</font>, <font color="#cc0000">CO raises to $480</font>, Button folds, Hero calls, 3 folds.

Flop: K[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] T[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] J[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] ($1260, 2 players)
Hero checks, <font color="#cc0000">CO bets $400</font>, Hero calls.

Turn: 4[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] ($2060, 2 players)
Hero checks, <font color="#cc0000">CO bets $800</font>, Hero calls.

River: J[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] ($3660, 2 players)
Hero checks, <font color="#cc0000">CO is all-in $1565</font>, Hero folds.
Uncalled bets: $1565 returned to CO.

Results:
Final pot: $3660

[luckychewy]

i'd fold the turn almost always w/ given info, but i think getting it in pf is acceptable though not neccesary.

[djk123]

I'm not sure about preflop, but I would definitely fold the turn. 99% sure we're behind and there's no implied odds if we hit the straight. I can't think of any hands in his range that we are beating on the turn.

[wpr101]

Our range for cold calling is probably TT-QQ/AK but yet villian seems to be value betting. I think it's going to be too obvious what we have even if we do hit. Turn looks like a fold, but if I was in the hand I could easily see myself calling.

[Jurollo]

as chewy said, I think turn call is bad, if not gross.... Q doesn't help you so you are drawing to an OESD with 1 of your outs likely killed.

[Newt_Buggs]

His weak turn bet is a little strange but I still fold to it.

[grafyx]

Ok. I agree the turn is a fold looking back on the hand, but what about preflop? I can't decide if flat calling is better than reraising to get it all in.

[hERESY]

I'd rather push preflop b/c

A; CO could hold AK
B; OOP
C; You look super strong to MP1
D; Cover both MP1 and CO [img]/images/graemlins/laugh.gif[/img]

[Ansky]

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I'd rather push preflop b/c

A; CO could hold AK
B; OOP
C; You look super strong to MP1
D; Cover both MP1 and CO [img]/images/graemlins/laugh.gif[/img]

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Is this supposed to be an argument?

PF is good, you will not get called by JJ enough to shove pf.

[Mench]

I think pf and flop are fine and turn is a definate fold. You don't beat anything he has ever at this point.