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Old 07-13-2007, 01:06 AM
Lego05 Lego05 is offline
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Default 50NL; AJ flops TP on drawy board soon after I showed villian a bluf

Villian is 58.46/16.92/.88 postflop agg. over 65 hands.

Ok first let me show you this hand. It happened just a couple of hands/minutes ago. I don't really want any comments on this hand. I know the bluff was thin or -ev. However I strongly felt he was on a flush draw and there was a decent chance I could make him fold even if the J or maybe the Q hit him. So I decided to try it and show him the bluff if it worked to setup for a pot later.

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MP ($55)
Hero ($72.05)
SB ($58.20)
BB ($32.85)
UTG ($26.20)

Preflop: Hero is Button with 3[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img], K[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img].
<font color="#666666">2 folds</font>, <font color="#CC3333">Hero raises to $2</font>, SB calls $1.75, <font color="#666666">1 fold</font>.

Flop: ($4.50) 7[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img], 5[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img], A[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(2 players)</font>
SB checks, <font color="#CC3333">Hero bets $3</font>, SB calls $3.

Turn: ($10.50) Q[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(2 players)</font>
SB checks, Hero checks.

River: ($10.50) J[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(2 players)</font>
<font color="#CC3333">SB bets $4.5</font>, <font color="#CC3333">Hero raises to $18</font>, SB folds.

Hero shows K3 for A high.


Ok so I showed that bluff and now very soon after:

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UTG ($55)
Hero ($81.10)
CO ($37.50)
Button ($48.70)
SB ($32.35)
BB ($26.20)

Preflop: Hero is MP with A[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img], J[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img]. CO posts a blind of $0.50.
<font color="#666666">1 fold</font>, <font color="#CC3333">Hero raises to $2.5</font>, <font color="#666666">1 fold</font>, Button calls $2.50, <font color="#666666">2 folds</font>.

Flop: ($6.25) 5[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img], 6[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img], A[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(2 players)</font>
<font color="#CC3333">Hero bets $4.25</font>, Button calls $4.25.

Turn: ($14.75) 7[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(2 players)</font>
<font color="#CC3333">Hero bets $10</font>, Button calls $10.

River: ($34.75) 3[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(2 players)</font>
Hero ??? Button has about $32 left.
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Old 07-13-2007, 01:10 AM
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Default Re: 50NL; AJ flops TP on drawy board soon after I showed villian a bluf

$20 valuebet. Expect smaller aces to call you here. I think he would have shoved or raise if he made the straight/flush.
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Old 07-13-2007, 06:46 AM
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Default Re: 50NL; AJ flops TP on drawy board soon after I showed villian a blu

My first thought is to shove. I'd be curious to know how you were thinking he'd play a big hand here, whether he'd slowplay against your aggression or be the aggressor. My guess is he's going to be passive with marginals, which is exactly what you wanted in the first place.

If he liked his hand on the flop, he probably likes his hand on the river. Could he possibly try to draw?
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Old 07-13-2007, 03:16 PM
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Default Re: 50NL; AJ flops TP on drawy board soon after I showed villian a blu

Bump.
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Old 07-13-2007, 03:56 PM
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Default Re: 50NL; AJ flops TP on drawy board soon after I showed villian a blu

I'm not sure I even like a turn bet here. Anyhow, I'm checking this river, hes only calling you with hands that have you beat, even after your bluff play. Blocking is bad here because he will push with so many hands that are improved. I'd check call a smaller sized bet here, but nothing big.

I'd watch out with that bluff on the first hand as well. With those stats, I think you're getting donk called by a large range of hands.
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Old 07-14-2007, 01:04 AM
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Default Re: 50NL; AJ flops TP on drawy board soon after I showed villian a blu

I'd still apprciate more commenst on this hand.
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Old 07-14-2007, 01:09 AM
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Default Re: 50NL; AJ flops TP on drawy board soon after I showed villian a bluf

I would make a blocking bet right here of about 12$. If he shoves I fold. I dont like just potting it here because there are alot of hands that could have you beat, and i also don't like checking here because there is no way you can call a push.
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Old 07-14-2007, 01:16 AM
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Default Re: 50NL; AJ flops TP on drawy board soon after I showed villian a bluf

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I would make a blocking bet right here of about 12$

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I hate these lines, what you are essentially doing is showing weakness, you got to call if you show weakness.

value like 18
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Old 07-14-2007, 01:20 AM
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Default Re: 50NL; AJ flops TP on drawy board soon after I showed villian a bluf

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I would make a blocking bet right here of about 12$

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I hate these lines, what you are essentially doing is showing weakness, you got to call if you show weakness.

value like 18

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If you do this and he shoves then you are going to have to call him. This goes back to why not just shove on him if you are going to this? It will end in the same result.
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Old 07-14-2007, 01:55 AM
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Default Re: 50NL; AJ flops TP on drawy board soon after I showed villian a bluf

dont we lose value from weaker aces that way ):
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