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Old 12-29-2006, 06:27 AM
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Default I hate schneids

live 30/60.
i open in the hijack with A [img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img]J [img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img], schneids 3bets from the SB, BB folds, I 4bet, he calls.

flop HU: T [img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img]6 [img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img]4 [img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img]
check, i bet, he calls.

turn: 9 [img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img]
schneids bets, I.........
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Old 12-29-2006, 06:52 AM
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Default Re: I hate schneids

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Old 12-29-2006, 07:03 AM
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Default Re: I hate schneids

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what does he have that he plays this way?
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Old 12-29-2006, 07:34 AM
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Default Re: I hate schneids

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what does he have that he plays this way?

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I really dont know but you have shown considerable strength and he has to figure you have something with showdown value the vast majority of the time. If he wanted to blow you off of your hand I suspect he would usually choose a different line and therefore I think he is usually betting for value/to deny a free card.
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Old 12-29-2006, 08:00 AM
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Default Re: I hate schneids

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what does he have that he plays this way?

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I really dont know but you have shown considerable strength and he has to figure you have something with showdown value the vast majority of the time. If he wanted to blow you off of your hand I suspect he would usually choose a different line and therefore I think he is usually betting for value/to deny a free card.

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so, he either has something huge here or air?
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Old 12-29-2006, 08:05 AM
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Default Re: I hate schneids

Is violence an option?
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Old 12-29-2006, 08:07 AM
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Default Re: I hate schneids

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fold.

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what does he have that he plays this way?

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I really dont know but you have shown considerable strength and he has to figure you have something with showdown value the vast majority of the time. If he wanted to blow you off of your hand I suspect he would usually choose a different line and therefore I think he is usually betting for value/to deny a free card.

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so, he either has something huge here or air?

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No, I don't think so. He could of course have either of those, but I think something in between is far more likely. I suspect usually something showdownable that he figures to be ahead of your range but not something strong that he wants a bunch of chips to go in.
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Old 12-29-2006, 08:22 AM
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Default Re: I hate schneids

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fold.

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what does he have that he plays this way?

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I really dont know but you have shown considerable strength and he has to figure you have something with showdown value the vast majority of the time. If he wanted to blow you off of your hand I suspect he would usually choose a different line and therefore I think he is usually betting for value/to deny a free card.

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so, he either has something huge here or air?

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No, I don't think so. He could of course have either of those, but I think something in between is far more likely. I suspect usually something showdownable that he figures to be ahead of your range but not something strong that he wants a bunch of chips to go in.

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ok, but what is that? i 4bet preflop. that narrows my range a bit. he 3bet preflop vs. my open which, given my position, was not necessarily a steal. nothing makes sense for him other than something like 55 that doesn't want me to take a free river card, and against that hand i have to call.
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Old 12-29-2006, 08:30 AM
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Default Re: I hate schneids

fish like to donkbet turn when they pickup a draw
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Old 12-29-2006, 08:32 AM
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fish like to donkbet turn when they pickup a draw

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so, he has KcQc or some variation here?
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