Badugi

[Matt Flynn]

Or however it's spelled.

Four card lowball, triple daw, make four different suits without a pair.

Can someone give basic odds for 9 -> 3-handed? Assume a loose game if that helps. Also basic draw odds. Any tips? I'm basically going to be taking a flier in a big game but would really like some math ammunition. I've played no lowball.

Matt

[obi---one]

its hard to make a hand, play tight. really good three cards are almost like madehands, but dont get carried away with that in multi-way pots.

[DeathDonkey]

The only math I know for certain is that a made KQJT badugi is a slight (like 51:49) favorite over a A23 with all three draws to go. That said, the game is about having the best draw because when you do you don't have a draw at all, you have a made two or three card hand and everyone is drawing to beat it. Once someone has or declares they have (by standing pat) a badugi, the whole game changes into a secondary game where you either make a badugi, or convince them that you have and see if they will break or fold their's. The first game is easy, the second one is what makes it an interesting poker game.

-DeathDonkey

[PokerSlut]

Speaking of this, I have a stupid rule-related question about Badugi.

Does a 2-card flush beat a pair, or vice-versa?

e.g. A[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img]2[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img]3[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img]4[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] vs. A[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img]2[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img]3[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img]3[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img]

Which hand is better?

[donger]

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Speaking of this, I have a stupid rule-related question about Badugi.

Does a 2-card flush beat a pair, or vice-versa?

e.g. A[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img]2[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img]3[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img]4[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] vs. A[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img]2[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img]3[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img]3[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img]

Which hand is better?

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I think they tie in the US, but British players have said that they rank one over the other (not sure which)

[fnord_too]

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The only math I know for certain is that a made KQJT badugi is a slight (like 51:49) favorite over a A23 with all three draws to go.

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So 12 of A23's suit left, less A,2, and 3 so 9 outs. 44 unknonws, A23 loses:
35/44 * 34/43 * 33/42 ~= .494 Wow that is pretty damn close to a coin flip (though I think the A23 is the very slight favorite, but I often screw up simple math). I would have guessed the A23 was a big favorite.

[Matt Flynn]

Tied in my game. Goes strictly to a three-card hand with either a pair or two of same suit.