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Old 10-19-2007, 05:14 PM
Thomas Luice Thomas Luice is offline
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Default Too passive out of position?

Villain plays loose-aggresive both on pre- and postflop.
I assume that his preflop 3bet range is: 22+, A7s+, K7s+, Q7s+, J8s+, T9s, 98s, 87s, A7o+, K9o+, Q8o+, J9o+, T9o

Did I play too passive on postflop?

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Limit Holdem Ring game
Limit: $1/$2
5 players
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Pre-flop: (5 players) Hero is UTG with 8[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] 7[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img]
<font color="#cc0000">Hero raises</font>, CO folds, <font color="#cc0000">Button 3-bets</font>, 2 folds, Hero calls.

Flop: T[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] 8[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] 9[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] (7.5SB, 2 players)
Hero checks, <font color="#cc0000">Button bets</font>, Hero calls.

Turn: T[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] (4.75BB, 2 players)
Hero checks, <font color="#cc0000">Button bets</font>, Hero calls.

River: 9[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] (6.75BB, 2 players)
Hero checks, <font color="#cc0000">Button bets</font>, Hero folds.
Uncalled bets: 1BB returned to Button.

Results:
Final pot: 6.75BB
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Old 10-19-2007, 05:17 PM
JSmith2007 JSmith2007 is offline
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Default Re: Too passive out of position?

I think you played it fine, I may have raised on the flop, but other than that calling turn and river (Fold) is fine.
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Old 10-19-2007, 08:04 PM
Saikkonen Saikkonen is offline
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Default Re: Too passive out of position?

fine. There is not much to do. If he bets with air let him bet himself to bankruptcy. Just unlucky here.
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Old 10-19-2007, 08:10 PM
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Default Re: Too passive out of position?

No this looks good.
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Old 10-19-2007, 10:02 PM
Mozart Mozart is offline
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Default Re: Too passive out of position?

Wow, everbody just calls down?

Maybe i play to aggro in that spots, but i would raise the flop . If we are behind we have a lot of outs.
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Old 10-20-2007, 03:27 AM
Saikkonen Saikkonen is offline
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Default Re: Too passive out of position?

Against a passive player I will checkraise but against an aggro who can fold a hand like AK on a turnbet or a lower pocket, who will otherwise bet/bluff all way down I think calling down is the superior way.
Anyway there is a lot of metagame here: If u checkraise will he think u are just making a move? Will he reraise for a freecard? Will he just call and raise the turn?
There is a lot of factors deciding what to do and if we are not sure that he will bet himself down then I think it is in fact better to take the initiative because we are most of the times favourites. We will loose to much value if he only have overcards and check the turn. We will loose if we in fact are behind and are 3bet on the flop but that is not as much as we'll loose if villain checks on the turn with OC's.
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Old 10-20-2007, 03:52 AM
thepizzlefosho thepizzlefosho is offline
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Default Re: Too passive out of position?

I know noone wants to hear this, but I think this is a fold pf. if you have a LAG behind you 3-balling a lot then you really don't want to be trying to play mid-suited connectors OOP.

after that the play is fine. No reason to c/r because the LAG is never folding a worse hand, and we would rather have him barrel if he just has overs.
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Old 10-20-2007, 03:58 AM
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Default Re: Too passive out of position?

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I know noone wants to hear this, but I think this is a fold pf.

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