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Old 11-18-2007, 02:42 PM
tcmNOWAY tcmNOWAY is offline
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Default Why does a flush beat a straight?

I've always wondered about this as almost all straight draws have up to 8 outs to hit with <=4-out gutshots being the most common draw (and the 12-out triple belly buster on very rare occasions) while a flush draw has up to 9 outs to hit. Can someone clarify this for me please?
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Old 11-18-2007, 02:50 PM
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Default Re: Why does a flush beat a straight?

There are more ways to make a straight than a flush.
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Old 11-18-2007, 02:58 PM
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Default Re: Why does a flush beat a straight?

flushes are harder to get. so yes, there's more outs on the flop, but you don't flop a flush draw as often.
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Old 11-18-2007, 04:07 PM
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Default Re: Why does a flush beat a straight?

Poker hands are ranked by their probability of being dealt using only 5 cards. How hard they are to draw to after the flop is not considered.

There are fewer flush combos than straight combos in a deck of 52 cards so the flush ranks higher.

Someone Smarter than me will have to provide the exact math behind this, but I hope it answers your question.
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Old 11-18-2007, 04:52 PM
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Default Re: Why does a flush beat a straight?

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Poker hands are ranked by their probability of being dealt using only 5 cards. How hard they are to draw to after the flop is not considered.

There are fewer flush combos than straight combos in a deck of 52 cards so the flush ranks higher.

Someone Smarter than me will have to provide the exact math behind this, but I hope it answers your question.

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Old 11-18-2007, 05:37 PM
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Default Re: Why does a flush beat a straight?

.... what was the point of just quoting that? I see almost all your posts are quoting someone else, adding nothing. Weird.
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Old 11-18-2007, 06:02 PM
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Default Re: Why does a flush beat a straight?

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.... what was the point of just quoting that? I see almost all your posts are quoting someone else, adding nothing. Weird.

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Old 11-18-2007, 08:52 PM
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Default Re: Why does a flush beat a straight?

For being dealt 5 cards from a 52 card deck.
There are 5108 ways to make a flush and 10200 ways to make a straight out of 2,598,960 possible hands.
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Old 11-18-2007, 08:56 PM
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Default Re: Why does a flush beat a straight?

I neglected to add an additional 40 straight-flushes which may also be dealt.
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Old 11-18-2007, 11:17 PM
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Default Re: Why does a flush beat a straight?

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I neglected to add an additional 40 straight-flushes which may also be dealt.

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