5/10 QQ

Nick Royale · #1 03-27-2006, 09:37 AM

UTG+1 is 40/8/0.8 over a decent sample.
CO is 31/10/1.4 (~350 hands)
MP1 is unknown.

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Preflop: Hero is UTG with Q[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img], Q[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img]. CO posts a blind of $5. MP1 posts a blind of $7.
Hero raises, UTG+1 calls, MP1 (poster) calls, 1 fold, CO (poster) calls, 2 folds, BB calls.

Flop: (10.80 SB) 9[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img], T[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img], 9[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] (5 players)
BB checks, Hero bets, UTG+1 calls, MP1 calls, CO raises, BB folds, Hero 3-bets, UTG+1 calls, MP1 folds, CO caps, Hero calls, UTG+1 calls.

Turn: (11.90 BB) 6[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] (3 players)
Hero bets (with the intention of folding to a raise)

Do you have a better line?

KEW · #2 03-27-2006, 10:04 AM

This pot is FAR to big to consider folding at any point...

Nick Royale · #3 03-27-2006, 10:09 AM

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This pot is FAR to big to consider folding at any point...

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What do you think he could reasonably have that I beat if he raises the turn? I count on the pot being protected.

Do you have a better line?

Chaos_ult · #4 03-27-2006, 10:30 AM

Maybe check/call the turn/river?

car ramrod · #5 03-27-2006, 10:52 AM

Is that the only read that you have on CO. I think with utg in there it is possible he is capping a flush draw, but I don't know. Would he cap the flop with a T? Minus a read, I like the bet/fold line.

I don't think he is going to raise that turn without a 9 or AA or KK, especially with utg in there. so I like your line.

Nick Royale · #6 03-27-2006, 11:03 AM

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Is that the only read that you have on CO. I think with utg in there it is possible he is capping a flush draw, but I don't know. Would he cap the flop with a T? Minus a read, I like the bet/fold line.

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My line is based on the range of hands I put him on, basically a fd, QJ, TT or a 9.

The turn bet makes it impossible for him to take the free card he would like if he's drawing. If he raises again I can be sure QQ is not the best hand, since he would raise a draw anymore.

It's also good I hold QhQc since now he can't hold the massive oesfd+2 over, two combos he might could have raised the turn with. We have 4 outs against 87, but I don't think he'll cap the flop with it. Against 8h7h we're making a mistake by folding, but that's only one combo.

#7 03-27-2006, 11:23 AM

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Maybe check/call the turn/river?

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Thats probably the best thing to do if we can't fold to a raise. But if the middle guy calls a fold must be safe. If he doesn't its closer but I think we can still fold. If he doesn't have the goods he must be afraid we got it after all the strenght we've shown. I think it takes a maniac to keep semibluffraising.

Nick Royale · #8 03-27-2006, 11:28 AM

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Maybe check/call the turn/river?

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Thats probably the best thing to do if we can't fold to a raise. But if the middle guy calls a fold must be safe. If he doesn't its closer but I think we can still fold. If he doesn't have the goods he must be afraid we got it after all the strenght we've shown. I think it takes a maniac to keep semibluffraising.

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Yup, and after UTG+1 called 4 bets on the flop I assumed he'll stick around most of the time when I bet the turn.

car ramrod · #9 03-27-2006, 11:46 AM

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It's also good I hold QhQc since now he can't hold the massive oesfd+2 over, two combos he might could have raised the turn with.

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good point.

I still think your line is best. If he has the sack to cap the flop and raise the turn with 78 [img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] or with a T, then he earned it.