Faux Chip Card Protectors = Angleshooting

[Felix_Nietzsche]

I sat down at a 1/2 NLHE table and sitting two places to my left was a player with APPARANTLY $540 (min buyin is $50 and max is $200). He raised a few times and I called with suited connectors thinking if I hit, I could make a big score. I did not hit.

Now the punchline.
He did not have $540, he had $40. The five blackchips he kept on his stack was a cigarette lighter. I was ticked off. I complained to the dealer and the dealer said he would not make him remove his 'card protector' but I could call the floor if I wanted to. I should have called the floor but I elected to not elevate the situation. What irritated me even more was he often kept his lighter with the rest of his chips instead of on his cards that it was theoretically protecting.

I found the cardroom manager and complained during a break saying this faux chips should be banned. He said 'no' but in the future I should get up from the table and get a floor person and they will ask the person to remove their card protector. WTF? Is this bizzaro world?

Oh.....and three other players at the table said they were fooled by his cigarette lighter as well. Perhaps the other players were as well but they did not say anything. The other players struck me as players who are clueless about adjusting tactics based on stack size...
Choctaw Casino, Durant, OK

PS
There is a part of me that wants to buy two of these cigaretter lighters, buy in at $50, and then go on an ALL-IN re-raise spree until these fools change the rules to my liking....

[ThunderEagle]

I thought most card rooms had pretty strict rules about card protectors, and a lighter would usually fail those rules if it didn't look like a stack of blacks. IMO, that is a really bad decision to allow that on the table.

[mrkilla]

I doubt hes angleing though , your in a small game with less then pro players and I bet he just liked his toy on the table.

[GreedIsGood]

If it looked like a stack of their chips, it's probably because it was being sold in the shop of the room/casino you were at. Thus their unwillingness to ban it.

That said, this seems pretty weak on their part.

[Nybble]

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If it looked like a stack of their chips, it's probably because it was being sold in the shop of the room/casino you were at.

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I've seen those lighters at gas stations usually. IDK about casinos and poker rooms, but even the ones at the gas stations look too real. Cool idea, but if he is putting it with his chips to make his stack look bigger, then that is angle-shooting. On top of the cards, and then back to the rail (of the table) when he's done with the hand would be appropriate.

[PokherJoe]

The more you play the more u will see these kinda of card protectors. I agree that the player should be warned not to put it on his stack, but i have seen people with the little buddhas put it on their stack if its not in use. Once u get used to them u will spot them a mile away. Not to mention in a 1/2 NL game how often do you see a player with 5 black chips when he only has 40 in other denominations? If i sat down at the table and saw a guy with 40 in red and 500 in black my first thought would be to double check and see if they were actually real chips.

[SellingtheDrama]

I have seen (several times) someone buy into a $500 buyin game with 5 blacks (or one purple lol). They tend to hoard the blacks and only change them down as needed. So I could easily imagine (having seen it) someone playing a stack like that.

As for what to do with it - if one player is confused by it, his problem. If half the table is confused, it should be fixed because it clearly is a problem.

And I've seen these lighters before, they are extremely realistic looking.

[icepick]

Okay, yeah. That BS.

Close enough to the real thing to be very confusing.

[pfapfap]

Ooh, I hadn't seen the version with the printing.

I see these lighters all the time. What casino uses dice chips?

[youtalkfunny]

There's a different kind of cigarette lighter/card protector that I have a problem with.



Polish this baby up, sit next to the dealer, and enjoy the reflection of each card as it is pitched.

And when I suggest to floorpeople that such players should be asked to remove these "glims" from the table, they look at me like I was from Mars.