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Re: QJ hits top pair on drawy board vs jalexand42
call 1, fold 2,3.
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Re: QJ hits top pair on drawy board vs jalexand42
c/f or b/f.
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Re: QJ hits top pair on drawy board vs jalexand42
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call 1, fold 2,3. [/ QUOTE ] yea, that seems like the obvious choice because draws did or did not get there. but I think its a little trickier than that. The fact that our line is a little weird doesnt help, as we've got a tougher time figuring what he puts us on. On the one hand, 2 and 3 allow him to fire the third barrel because a draw and/or overcard came in, so he should be firing it light against our weak made hands to blow us out. similarly, 1 makes no such draw, so he shouldnt bluff our weak made hands as much, as we're more likely to call. on the other hand, if he puts us on a draw, he's likely to fire all three if his hand lacks good showdown value, but only fire 2/3 if he thinks he has a strong enough hand to valuebet given that we c/c a pretty sizeable bet on the turn oop, he's gotta put us on a hand with some showdown value, which maybe makes it even tougher, because its somewhere between the two sections. |
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Re: QJ hits top pair on drawy board vs jalexand42
given its 4 to the flop and goofy has a notoriously nitty image, jalex calling a cbet first to act should actually show more strength than usual. i dont think he would turn a made hand into a bluff on scare card rivs.
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Re: QJ hits top pair on drawy board vs jalexand42
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call 1, fold 2,3. [/ QUOTE ] Why do you think the 3 makes the river a call while 2 is a fold? FWIW I think they're all a fold. |
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Re: QJ hits top pair on drawy board vs jalexand42
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[ QUOTE ] call 1, fold 2,3. [/ QUOTE ] Why do you think the 3 makes the river a call while 2 is a fold? FWIW I think they're all a fold. [/ QUOTE ] Flush... |
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Re: QJ hits top pair on drawy board vs jalexand42
Oh yeah. Would've helped if Goofy posted the board in that post but w/e.
I still think they're all a fold though. And if I checked the turn I wouldn't be looking to call a bet either. |
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Re: QJ hits top pair on drawy board vs jalexand42
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if he's gonna make a move on you with a worse hand, its probably gonna be on the flop [/ QUOTE ] [ QUOTE ] there's two players behind jalex on the flop. if he's making a move, it's pretty sick. [/ QUOTE ] There's zero behind on the turn. Don't you think that would embolden delayed semi-bluffs? |
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Re: QJ hits top pair on drawy board vs jalexand42
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given its 4 to the flop and goofy has a notoriously nitty image, jalex calling a cbet first to act should actually show more strength than usual. i dont think he would turn a made hand into a bluff on scare card rivs. [/ QUOTE ] You really think he'll have any made hands worse than QJ on the river? Can't see what made hand he's calling the c-bet with given hero's image and that the flop was 4-ways. Fwiw I'd definately call 1, and most likely fold the other two. Can't see many better hands he can have on the river scenario 1. |
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Re: QJ hits top pair on drawy board vs jalexand42
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crai is good also c/f [/ QUOTE ] c/f seems so weak but it may actually be best if you dont think a c/r gets AQ and KQ out. If you think he has a draw here a ton then, I like the c/r. |
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