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#21
09-14-2007, 12:53 PM
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did ESPN really say that 'most important game between non-ranked teams' crap? Wow. Just when I thought the bashing is way too much and out of hand they end up doing something so ridiculous that it makes me thing there isn't nearly enough bashing of them. No self-respecting announcer or organization would ever say this. In other news: I think some of the things posted already really aren't THAT stupid. Not that some guys aren't pretty dumb nor is it that hard a freaking job just to talk about sports and have SOME kind of a clue...but when guys are on the air that much there's bound to be some slip-ups or just some plain-old dumb things said. I would be scared to death for you guys to listen to me when I was a broadcast or if I ever get back into broadcasting again. I said some pretty dumb stuff daily I think....and still do around here I guess. Regarding Joe's "grander scheme of things"...it might be one of the few times I partly agree with him. TEX scores 30 on BAL. Then if they lose 4-2, 5-3, 7-2 and 5-1 they stilll have a + run-diff. I'm not quite as impressed by the overall run-diff or win-projection type stats as maybe I should be. It's about winning it on the field and some runs really are more valuable than others. [/ QUOTE ] Right, and the win differential of aces over 7-2 isn't really that important because sometimes the flop comes 7-7-2. Come on now. Teams that have a larger positive run differential are likely going to be teams that win a lot of games over time. Unless you think there is some unique talent or skill set that allows certain types of teams to regularly win by ten and lose by one. Its not impossible, and "bullpens" is probably a good candidate, but I think this effect gets washed out for the most part. Probably has SOME impact, reducing the usefulness of run differential, but RD is still a good predictor. 
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#22
09-14-2007, 01:20 PM
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Bob, run differential over a season is obviously different than run differential over a 5 game series where they score 30 in one game. Come on now. [/ QUOTE ] Not to mention that he said OPS means nothing as well.
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#23
09-14-2007, 01:26 PM
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[ QUOTE ] Bob, run differential over a season is obviously different than run differential over a 5 game series where they score 30 in one game. Come on now. [/ QUOTE ] Not to mention that he said OPS means nothing as well. [/ QUOTE ] When was the last time OPS hit a grounder to the right side with a runner on 2nd and nobody out? How many times has OPS gone out there without his best stuff and turned in a gutty 7 IP to carry his team to victory? OPS doesn't hustle to 1st on every grounder, hit the cut-off man, get his uniform dirty, or any of the other things that real baseball players do. Did OPS steal 2nd in game 4 of ALCS? Didn't think so. [censored] OPS. (/end old-timey [censored] stupidity)
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#24
09-14-2007, 01:31 PM
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[ QUOTE ] [ QUOTE ] Bob, run differential over a season is obviously different than run differential over a 5 game series where they score 30 in one game. Come on now. [/ QUOTE ] Not to mention that he said OPS means nothing as well. [/ QUOTE ] When was the last time OPS hit a grounder to the right side with a runner on 2nd and nobody out? How many times has OPS gone out there without his best stuff and turned in a gutty 7 IP to carry his team to victory? OPS doesn't hustle to 1st on every grounder, hit the cut-off man, get his uniform dirty, or any of the other things that real baseball players do. Did OPS steal 2nd in game 4 of ALCS? Didn't think so. [censored] OPS. (/end old-timey [censored] stupidity) [/ QUOTE ] yeah, but OPS did win a few HR titles and derbys back in the day. OPS for president!
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#25
09-14-2007, 01:32 PM
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The whole "Pythagorean W-L" thing holds very little water for me. Run differential is a "decent indicator" of how "good" a team is. But how "good" a team is isn't directly related to how many games they will win.
Some control pitcher going out and "not having it" on a given day, say a Jamie Moyer type, getting pummelled for 9 runs in 2-2/3 innings would be something I'd just shrug off as a fan. It's just a loss. But I do agree that over the course of a season, it should flatten out a bit. Unless your team has 4 aces and 1 chimpanzee with an ERA of 15.56. Obviously your Pythagorean W-L will vary greatly from your actual W-L. Something stupid I heard earlier this year, when Orestes Destrade was in Boston after Felix Hernandez beat down Daisuke he was all excited and said (paraphrasing) "Everyone was looking forward to a great game today, most maybe thinking DICE K would win, but I tell ya, us Latinos sure do know how to crash a party ." Bolded part was verbatim. What an absurd thing to say, in more ways than one.
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#26
09-14-2007, 01:36 PM
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The whole "Pythagorean W-L" thing holds very little water for me. Run differential is a "decent indicator" of how "good" a team is. But how "good" a team is isn't directly related to how many games they will win. Some control pitcher going out and "not having it" on a given day, say a Jamie Moyer type, getting pummelled for 9 runs in 2-2/3 innings would be something I'd just shrug off as a fan. It's just a loss. But I do agree that over the course of a season, it should flatten out a bit. Unless your team has 4 aces and 1 chimpanzee with an ERA of 15.56. Obviously your Pythagorean W-L will vary greatly from your actual W-L. Something stupid I heard earlier this year, when Orestes Destrade was in Boston after Felix Hernandez beat down Daisuke he was all excited and said (paraphrasing) "Everyone was looking forward to a great game today, most maybe thinking DICE K would win, but I tell ya, us Latinos sure do know how to crash a party ." Bolded part was verbatim. What an absurd thing to say, in more ways than one. [/ QUOTE ] Is he still on BBTN? I haven't watched in months because the show had gotten so damn awful.
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#27
09-14-2007, 01:37 PM
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Pythag WL has better predictive value of future record than current record.
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#28
09-14-2007, 02:24 PM
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Mike and the Mad Dog are running on right now. I'm not actually listening, just assuming...
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#29
09-14-2007, 02:32 PM
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is run-diff really that much of a factor in determining who is going to win the world series?
I think Boston has the best record in baseball. And perhaps their pitching works well for post-season series which are kind of a different arrangement than the reg-season. Stuff like that is worth looking into. Saying that Boston has a great chance to win the world series because their run-differential is so great just seems weird to me.
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#30
09-14-2007, 02:37 PM
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it's just the best indicator of team strength.
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