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Re: deep river spot with \"obvious\" aces $10-$20
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I folded. As everyone points out it is very difficult for me to be ahead here, even with the good price. I was considering raising instead. I think if he folds the nut flush this is clearly profitable. But for that to happen he has to put me on exactly KKxx and I thought he might make a hero call. I don't even know if I can represent the nut flush in case he has a smaller flush, since I might just call with this hand on the river, or go nuts on flop and turn. |
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Re: deep river spot with \"obvious\" aces $10-$20
So there's like $4500 in the pot, Villain has about $4200 left and is probably on a flush draw, and you don't put him all-in on the turn? I don't get it.
If he has a hand that beats you here, that's a cooler, but this is a pretty good board for Aces and for less than a pot-size bet I think you have to shove the turn. On the river - hard to see what you beat, but getting 5.5:1 I think you can call. Or fold. Doesn't make much difference I think. |
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Re: deep river spot with \"obvious\" aces $10-$20
well he can also have 2xxx, 55, 34.
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Re: deep river spot with \"obvious\" aces $10-$20
You really think he'd play any 2 or 34 in this manner? Good fold though. I doubt very much he'd check the turn with 34. His most likely hand is overpair+flush draw unless you have a weird image, in which case he may very well check-call the flop with KK or whatever.
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Re: deep river spot with \"obvious\" aces $10-$20
[ QUOTE ]
Results: I folded. As everyone points out it is very difficult for me to be ahead here, even with the good price. I was considering raising instead. I think if he folds the nut flush this is clearly profitable. But for that to happen he has to put me on exactly KKxx and I thought he might make a hero call. I don't even know if I can represent the nut flush in case he has a smaller flush, since I might just call with this hand on the river, or go nuts on flop and turn. [/ QUOTE ] i think it's really unlikely that he has the nut flush considering he limped and called 2 cold preflop and didn't raise you on the flop and didn't just pot the river with only a psb left. his weak-sauce line seems much more like some kind of mid-rundown hand w/ flush draw that got there. |
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Re: deep river spot with \"obvious\" aces $10-$20
having talked and thought about it a bit more I think I should just bet more on the flop, 2k or so. At the time I figured I would be a good favourite if the shorty called, a dog or close in the side pot, so I bet just enough to set the short guy in. But really I need to just price out draws/earn more from draws.
As played maybe I should have shoved the river, I'm glad I didn't though because I played a bit more with the guy and he is considerably worse than I thought, plus I saw him play a hand in a similar way and show up with the flopped full house. |
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Re: deep river spot with \"obvious\" aces $10-$20
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having talked and thought about it a bit more I think I should just bet more on the flop, 2k or so. At the time I figured I would be a good favourite if the shorty called, a dog or close in the side pot, so I bet just enough to set the short guy in. But really I need to just price out draws/earn more from draws. As played maybe I should have shoved the river, I'm glad I didn't though because I played a bit more with the guy and he is considerably worse than I thought, plus I saw him play a hand in a similar way and show up with the flopped full house. [/ QUOTE ] If a player is flopping full houses he isn't bad at all. He is awesome. |
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Re: deep river spot with \"obvious\" aces $10-$20
i really dont understand why u bet so small on the flop. what was ur reasoning there?
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Re: deep river spot with \"obvious\" aces $10-$20
He said it several times. He thought he was +EV vs the range the tiltly player would call with and he didn't want to bloat the pot against the other deepstack.
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