NL200 6max Tough turn / river decision with overpair 200BB deep

Syntec87 · #1 08-01-2007, 06:43 PM

I had been really aggressive at the table and kind of running over villain, but I didnt know if he was responding by choosing to make a move or had patiently waited and picked up a big hand here. back to my image, I was around 26/21/4 I think, and had been doing some wierd leads, min raising, etc...

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saw flop|saw showdown

CO ($200)
Button ($157.45)
SB ($195)
BB ($425.05)
Hero ($410.95)
MP ($373.45)

Preflop: Hero is UTG with Q[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img], Q[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img].
Hero raises to $7, 4 folds, BB calls $5.

Flop: ($15) J[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img], 4[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img], 5[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] (2 players)
BB checks, Hero bets $12, BB calls $12.

Turn: ($39) T[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] (2 players)
BB checks, Hero bets $30, BB raises to $99, Hero calls $69.

River: ($237) 3[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] (2 players)
BB bets $180, Hero calls $180.

Final Pot: $597

do you 3bet the turn AI that deep expecting to get called by worse or in good enough shape often enough to make it + EV? Does anyone fold with such a LAG image? Whats the river plan? I was calling to reevaluate, not sure what line is best for each river card.

Syntec87 · #2 08-01-2007, 09:04 PM

bump, why no responses?

steel108 · #3 08-01-2007, 09:08 PM

I don't get what your beating here, but a pure bluff. The only draw hit as well as bunch of two pairs in his range, sets, etc. I don't like it at all. I expect Q-Q to lose a vast majority of the time here

uminchu · #4 08-01-2007, 11:04 PM

i think this deep i check the turn, or bet fold, baluga theorem

Syntec87 · #5 08-02-2007, 01:32 AM

What is the baluga theorem?

Also I have to really stress my crazy image the last few orbits, no way I can call down?

Steel · #6 08-02-2007, 01:45 AM

ssnl master sticky my friend

you're good enough to fold this don't you ?

modnareno · #7 08-02-2007, 02:26 AM

Fold river. If you want to play really good, fold the turn, but i like making them fire the river and make sure i dont river JT before i fold.

Felix Felicis · #8 08-02-2007, 02:32 AM

sorry. what is baluga theory?

This hand is hard because you have a lot of BBs. If you started the hand with 200$ I would re-raise him all-in on the turn.

Syntec87 · #9 08-02-2007, 02:44 AM

Okay so I think I made a bad call here I guess, turned out he had KQ for a float turned into a draw into nothing, but I felt like if I were more disciplined I would have folded river. Maybe it was a timing thing too subtle to explain, maybe I just got lucky.

Syntec87 · #10 08-02-2007, 02:49 AM

Also, having trouble finding a forum post defining baluga theory? anyone got a link?