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Old 07-30-2007, 07:08 PM
bilbo-san bilbo-san is offline
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Default UB NL200: 86s street by street

Villain has sat for one orbit, and is 66/66/inf over a grand total of 3 hands, but his AF means basically just that he bet the flop both times he raised. Effective stacks are $200.

I open $7 with 8[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img]6[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] from the Cutoff, he calls from the BB.

Flop is 8[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] 2[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] 6[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img]
He checks, I bet $12, he makes it $32.

Pot is now about $58.

My action?
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Old 07-30-2007, 07:11 PM
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Default Re: UB NL200: 86s street by street

On this board I call and shove most turns over his bet / bet if checked to.
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Old 07-30-2007, 07:14 PM
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Default Re: UB NL200: 86s street by street

$71
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Old 07-30-2007, 07:16 PM
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Default Re: UB NL200: 86s street by street

Call and re-evaluate turn.

I want to 3bet with top two but I do not see many hands that he is willing to go bonkers with that we beat. I think calling is best because it gives him the opportunity to make a mistake with a 2nd best hand on later streets that would otherwise fold to a raise on the flop.
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Old 07-30-2007, 07:21 PM
Jay Riall Jay Riall is offline
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Default Re: UB NL200: 86s street by street

Both have their merits. I would call and shove the turn a lot.
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Old 07-30-2007, 07:21 PM
bilbo-san bilbo-san is offline
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Default Re: UB NL200: 86s street by street

OK, one guy likes a min-raise, but it seems like calling is the consensus.

I called.

Turn was a blank Ace, completing the rainbow.

Villain bets $42.

Pot is now about $120.

My action?

FWIW I think this is a pretty bad card in terms of how it changes villain's calling range if I push here.
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Old 07-30-2007, 07:24 PM
Nielsio Nielsio is offline
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Default Re: UB NL200: 86s street by street

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FWIW I think this is a pretty bad card in terms of how it changes villain's calling range if I push here.

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Which is why I elected to reraise.

Tons of bad cards for him, but ppl talk themselves into calling 99/TT on the flop a lot more.
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Old 07-30-2007, 07:27 PM
Jay Riall Jay Riall is offline
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Default Re: UB NL200: 86s street by street

Calling the turn isn't horrible, neither is shoving. I probably call since he can't call a shove with too much that we are ahead of and we can extract better with a call.
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Old 07-30-2007, 07:29 PM
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Default Re: UB NL200: 86s street by street

call. try to get it any turn except a 2.
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Old 07-30-2007, 08:28 PM
Mike MacIntosh Mike MacIntosh is offline
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Default Re: UB NL200: 86s street by street

Terrible card to get it in on. He will have a hard time calling with anything that we beat. However it is a great card for villain to bluff at so I fancy a call down here to extract maximum value from weak made hands that have now decided there only way to win is to bet...
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