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Old 07-26-2007, 05:42 PM
monkeymaps monkeymaps is offline
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Default Re: 50nl: Bluff this river?

I think this type of player may donk the river with a small PP here after your turn check.

I think his range is mostly missed draws and stuff like A4
IMO he folds often enough to make betting this river profitable I donk think you have to bet huge here either.
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Old 07-26-2007, 05:42 PM
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Default Re: 50nl: Bluff this river?

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You can't rep anything here. Are you betting a Ten on the river? Would not be surprised if you got looked up by Ace high.

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I agree when making bluffs you have to think about the range of hands villian will put you on. What are you repping with this bluff?
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Old 07-26-2007, 05:43 PM
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Default Re: 50nl: Bluff this river?

you level of thinking is too high for this opponent
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Old 07-26-2007, 05:45 PM
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Default Re: 50nl: Bluff this river?

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Nah, flop bet was due to the crappy slider at FTP. A misclick of sorts

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Never use slider
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Old 07-26-2007, 05:47 PM
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Default Re: 50nl: Bluff this river?

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Whether or not I am repping anything doesn't matter against opponents who can't read hands.

[/ QUOTE ]In that case you definitely should not bet.
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Old 07-26-2007, 05:50 PM
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Default Re: 50nl: Bluff this river?

as played I'm betting river, 1/2 pot will do
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Old 07-26-2007, 05:52 PM
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Default Re: 50nl: Bluff this river?

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Whether or not I am repping anything doesn't matter against opponents who can't read hands. [ QUOTE ]
In that case you definitely should not bet.

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Why? I win close to 0% of the time by checking. The only way I win by checking is if he had 52s 62s or 56. This type of player isn't looking to make a hero call with KQ and will even fold Ace high some of the time.

If I bet half pot he only has to fold 33% of the time right?
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Old 07-26-2007, 05:56 PM
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Default Re: 50nl: Bluff this river?

I agree with billy.

interesting srat?

same opponent

how big/small does pot have to be to make even a min bet on the river here profitable?

meaning if the pot is big enough and even though villian hardly ever folds agianst a ZERO level thinker who maybe would fold say most of his missed draws wouldnt a bet even if its very small be manditory here?
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Old 07-26-2007, 06:01 PM
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Default Re: 50nl: Bluff this river?

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meaning if the pot is big enough and even though villian hardly ever folds agianst a ZERO level thinker who maybe would fold say most of his missed draws wouldnt a bet even if its very small be manditory here?

[/ QUOTE ]This is an interesting point, IMO. If he is cannot read the board bad and has no concept of anything I do think that if he is folding he will fold to half pot same % or close enough as like a $2 bet.
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Old 07-26-2007, 06:01 PM
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Default Re: 50nl: Bluff this river?

I think the flop bet is too small. He can call that bet with a pretty wide range.

And I think that's really what sorta makes this situation pretty gray. You haven't defined his possible holdings enough to be able to make a strong case for anything.

If you bluff the river, how much are you betting? 7?

I'm not sure you get folds enough of the time.
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