50nl - JJ overpair, linecheck

[danny8]

Cryptologic - No Limit Hold'em Cash Game - $0.25/$0.50 Blinds - 6 Players - (LegoPoker HH Converter)

SB: $79.15
BB: $45.75
UTG: $32.48
Hero (MP): $50.70
CO: $22.65
BTN: $46.95

Reads: <font color="blue">donk better is fairly loose/passive, but can fold a hand, im sure im ahead but i dont think he calls a raise with just a T here.

other villain playing at 25/12/2.5. hes on 3 of my tables, i think hes positionally aware, has 3bet once after my btn steal - i folded... thats about all thats happened so far.</font>

Preflop: Hero is dealt J[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] J[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] (6 Players)
UTG folds, <font color="red">Hero raises to $2.00</font>, 2 folds, SB calls $1.75, BB calls $1.50

Flop: ($6) 7[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] T[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] 3[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] (3 Players)
<font color="red">SB bets $3.00</font>, BB calls $3.00, Hero calls $3.00

Turn: ($15) 8[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] (3 Players)
SB checks, BB checks, <font color="red">Hero bets $10.00</font>, SB folds, <font color="red">BB raises all-in to $40.75</font>, Hero folds

hows my line? should i raise flop here always?

[fees]

yeah obv fold but def raise the flop

[gulisoff]

i sure u must rerais flop here almoust every time

[relativity_x]

I would have raised flop to 15.

With your flop line, check behind on turn.

As played, you have to fold.

[Check_The_Nuts]

what are your stats and AF?

edit: Ok I'm not gunna bother waiting for a reply. If your viewed as very very aggro (like AF of 4+) and he likes to play back some versus you I would probably call because he's likely semibluffing a lot here.

If your AF is like 3ish I would probably fold but its close.

If its around 2 or less I would snap call this really fast.

Basically if your AF is 4+ he may think you'll bet big draws or very weak hands on the turn, making semibluffing more profitable so you have to pay off lighter. If your AF is mediocre like around 3, then he can't semibluff as often because he's gunna get snapped off by kk/AA/sets/2pair wayy too often. If its low he would never check a set there and is therefore bluffing.

holla!

[danny8]

thanks for the replies... why am i raising this flop though? just because of 89? or d'ya htink i get value out of 9T,TJ etc? If i raise and get 1 caller the pots gonna be ~$40 with me having $33 behind. if the turn blanks should i be checking behind? basically, are we ahead and willing to felt it in that situation, or are we just gonna try get to SD cheaply?

say the flops T62r am i still raising flop?

thanks

[Check_The_Nuts]

humm reread the hand and realized there probably aren't enough hands that picked up a draw on the turn (maybe T9 or JT?) Also something like AQ/AK but it'd be weird for him to float those. I'd probably just toss it he doesn't seem aggro enuff to warrant a call.

[danny8]

Check_The_Nuts,

my stats for the 2 tables i was on with him were ~16/16/2.5

never played with him before these 2 sessiosn though so i dunno if hes gonna be making moves like this against me just yet. i've not really been playing out of line/over agro

[Check_The_Nuts]

yeah your way too tight easy fold. Sometimes I play really lag like 30/29/5 so thats why my answer is so different.

[Kasane]

I think you should raise this flop -- not a pot size raise, but close to it. Combined, your opponents are at worst drawing to a ton of outs, up to a third of the deck. The best card for you on the turn also completes the only draw. On a flop this dry, only a real hand is going to rebomb the pot, and depending on villain I think you'll have to toss.