CP 15-30

[ship it pls]

my last orbit of 15-30 on a sunday evening i announce 'last hand' as i limp utg with 1 poster behind...

reads on players involved:
a)utg+1 is quite poor, he cannot read hands, and puts multiple raises in with gutter or mid pr etc, he overvalues his hands and expects others to bluff him in bad spots a lot...
b)mp is abc, passive on draws, aggressive with made hands
c)button is quite lag, 3-betting any two paint preflop and over playing his weaker hands and draws - at times he doesnt seem to know the rules at the casino though, quite a strange guy, probably the type that has watched a lot of tv poker and has some internet experience

utg +1 raises (he has about 50 behind after the raise), 3 calls including mp/button, blinds fold, hero calls...

5 to the flop: Qh, Th, 3s

hero check, utg+1 bet, 3 calls including mp/button, hero calls

turn: 9c

hero bets, utg+1 raises half a bet to 45 and is all-in, mp calls and says 'this is cheap', button raises to 75, hero calls, mp calls and says 'this is getting expensive'

river Qd

hero bets, mp calls, button folds

hero hand range and comments on how it was played

[MitchL]

We have no read on hero, so it is hard to figure your range. If you have anything other than KJ than you misplayed the flop. If you have anything other than KQ you misplayed the turn. So I cant think of a hand that couldve been played optimally in this spot. I am not reading well lately though so who knows.

[twinfan]

agree with mitch, i though u might have had q10, or 33 possibly, but whatever hand u had at least one street was played very poorly.

[ship it pls]

i agree that the hand was played incorrectly in a couple of spots as well - was interested in feedback as to which hands others would show up with here and what the other guys in the hand had... the 'last hand' announcement was to try to encourage others into the pot thinking i was playing the last one very loosely

[MitchL]

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i agree that the hand was played incorrectly in a couple of spots as well - was interested in feedback as to which hands others would show up with here and what the other guys in the hand had... the 'last hand' announcement was to try to encourage others into the pot thinking i was playing the last one very loosely

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QQ?

[ship it pls]

i had KsQs, villain calls and mucks QcJc

thought this would be more interesting, but i think i just made it too confusing, thanks

[PokerBob]

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i had KsQs

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raise preflop.

[MitchL]

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i had KsQs, villain calls and mucks QcJc

thought this would be more interesting, but i think i just made it too confusing, thanks

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No, I think it was always clear that you wanted at least some discussion about the pf deception element. The fact is the way the hand played out, w/ KQ u dont really need to think to hard w/ an all in guy and random fish-caller. Just pound the sh.it out of it until you meet real resistance. As far as pf goes, if you have been playing a normal Tag or tight game at all and have won for the session people are more likely to give you credit or your last hand, bc tight players like to protect their wins. The only ones who will see it the other way are the idiot who wouldve given you action anyway and dont really care what you have-so my advice to pound, pound, pound. Raise pf, if you dont want to do that than abso-must cr the flop.

[MitchL]

Quick addendum. If you dont raise pf, which of course you should, you should actually be looking ot bet/3. Since you checked you should cr, but def get a raise or 2 in on the flop.

[wager32]

I bet the flop and hope that the UTG+1 raises, then 3 bet.