.50/1 NLCASH, RIVER???

[Parallax]

only played about 20 hands together, we both bought in short, only big hand thus far was all in pre my JJ against his KK, seems nitty thus far.

Full Tilt Poker Game #2441717775: Table Zone (heads up) - $0.50/$1 - No Limit Hold'em - 21:37:08 ET - 2007/05/16
Seat 1: HERO ($77.55)
Seat 2: Iamreallyfat ($58.45)
Iamreallyfat posts the small blind of $0.50
HERO posts the big blind of $1
The button is in seat #2
*** HOLE CARDS ***
Dealt to HERO [6s Ac]
Iamreallyfat raises to $3
HERO calls $2
*** FLOP *** [4h 5c Ad]
HERO checks
Iamreallyfat bets $6
HERO calls $6
*** TURN *** [4h 5c Ad] [Jd]
HERO checks
Iamreallyfat checks
*** RIVER *** [4h 5c Ad Jd] [Ah]
HERO bets $12
Iamreallyfat raises to $49.45, and is all in

HERO???

[RicherThanRichie]

Sucks since now your hand is basically a bluff catcher Against unknown I probably call but its a pretty thin call as I certainly expect to be beat here more often than not.

My personal feel and read of an opponent would probably sway me one way or another as this is almost a coinflop EV wise imo

[Zagga]

Is it ever ok to fold trips aces headsup? at 100nl I think you should definatly call this

[Nibster]

I would have check raised the flop and led the turn.

Since you only played 20 hands and don't have much of a read I would call.

[JackAll]

I don't play much HU, but PF looks spewy to me.

[Conspiracy]

pf is fine, flop is fine, turn is fine, river is fine if you call.

You could make an argument for CR the flop but, pretty villain dependent.

trips heads-up with 58BB = nuts.

[JackAll]

Ace + crap kicker is good enough to call a raise oop with.
This has to be a joke right?

The chance an A flops is a meagre 17%. So 5/6 times we lose money straight out (no draws help us to make up for this at all). We get almost nothing from him if he has no A and we hit top pair. If he has Ace with a lower rag, we get almost nothing because we are going for pot control having such a bad kicker. If they have an A, we are out kicked most of the time. We also can't defend properly against draws being oop and having such a [censored] kicker, so we are in a terrible reverse implied odds situation.

The only use of A6o pf oop hu is to pure bluff with it, and at least 46s we can semi-bluff with and may fold out better hands and have a chance of hitting a monster sometimes with our disguised hand. Even j4o is better because at least we have one live card and can toss it more easliy than when an A drops and we don't have the discipline to let it go when we have tp.

Pf is a total spew. Thinking it isn't is the biggest leak you can have in your game.

[CTKid]

I can't even begin to tell you how stupid this sounds to anyone who has played HU nl cash games. Seriously, where to begin?

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Ace + crap kicker is good enough to call a raise oop with.
This has to be a joke right?

The chance an A flops is a meagre 17%. So 5/6 times we lose money straight out (no draws help us to make up for this at all). We get almost nothing from him if he has no A and we hit top pair. If he has Ace with a lower rag, we get almost nothing because we are going for pot control having such a bad kicker. If they have an A, we are out kicked most of the time. We also can't defend properly against draws being oop and having such a [censored] kicker, so we are in a terrible reverse implied odds situation.

The only use of A6o pf oop hu is to pure bluff with it, and at least 46s we can semi-bluff with and may fold out better hands and have a chance of hitting a monster sometimes with our disguised hand. Even j4o is better because at least we have one live card and can toss it more easliy than when an A drops and we don't have the discipline to let it go when we have tp.

Pf is a total spew. Thinking it isn't is the biggest leak you can have in your game.

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[whaahhahahah]

gold:

"Even j4o is better because at least we have one live card and can toss it more easliy than when an A drops and we don't have the discipline to let it go when we have tp."

fwiw, i agree too many people play ax like it's the nuts.

for OP, if you've noticed he's nitty in other areas, he's probably not bluff raising this more than the 33% or so you need him to be.

[JackAll]

Why don't you enlighten me then. You give no actual single point whatsoever. Explaing why A6o is good in a raised pot out of position. Then explain what exactly you disagree with from what i said and let me know why.

Anyone else is also free to answer this.


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I can't even begin to tell you how stupid this sounds to anyone who has played HU nl cash games. Seriously, where to begin?

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Ace + crap kicker is good enough to call a raise oop with.
This has to be a joke right?

The chance an A flops is a meagre 17%. So 5/6 times we lose money straight out (no draws help us to make up for this at all). We get almost nothing from him if he has no A and we hit top pair. If he has Ace with a lower rag, we get almost nothing because we are going for pot control having such a bad kicker. If they have an A, we are out kicked most of the time. We also can't defend properly against draws being oop and having such a [censored] kicker, so we are in a terrible reverse implied odds situation.

The only use of A6o pf oop hu is to pure bluff with it, and at least 46s we can semi-bluff with and may fold out better hands and have a chance of hitting a monster sometimes with our disguised hand. Even j4o is better because at least we have one live card and can toss it more easliy than when an A drops and we don't have the discipline to let it go when we have tp.

Pf is a total spew. Thinking it isn't is the biggest leak you can have in your game.

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