50nl: 66 deep stacked - Page 2

blackize · #11 01-15-2007, 02:57 AM

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I guess he could also not c-bet AA because the flop is so dry but that also seems like a stretch.

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He's kind of passive and tricky. This is the only other hand he has 3bet.

No Limit Holdem Ring game
Blinds: $0.25/$0.50
5 players
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Stack sizes:
Hero: $64.96
CO: $23.90
Button: $48.90
SB: $17.67
BB: $138.91

Pre-flop: (5 players) Hero is UTG with 9[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] 7[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img]
Hero folds, 2 folds, SB raises to $1, BB raises to $3, SB calls.

Flop: 7[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] 8[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] Q[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] ($6, 2 players)
SB checks, BB checks.

Turn: Q[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] ($6, 2 players)
SB bets $2, BB calls.

River: 4[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] ($10, 2 players)
SB checks, BB bets $4.5, SB raises all-in $12.67, BB calls.

Results:
Final pot: $35.34
SB Shows 4c 4d

blackize · #12 01-15-2007, 02:59 AM

Now that I've given this hand a little more thought, a river call is mandatory given how it played out, but I'm still not sure that bet bet bet with no intention of folding to a raise is the best line when you consider his range preflop, the unlikelihood of him floating AK on the flop, and the unlikelihood that QQ calls another bet on the turn.

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AK and AA have more variants than the rest of his range that beats u

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AK has to be severely discounted since I don't think he's floating it for such a large bet on the flop.

Edit: My image at the time is also very tight since the last 3-5 orbits I don't think I've really played a hand because I changed gears after stacking the guy to this Villain's left with 53s raised from the CO and he was trying to take shots at me.

I don't think this is AA/AK and the remote possibility he's calling down QQ so much more often than KK or JJ that this becomes ZOMG bet bet bet bet bet foolio like so many of you are saying.

shpanko · #13 01-15-2007, 03:04 AM

Results?

blackize · #14 01-15-2007, 03:07 AM

I'd like to get some more thoughts now that I've posted a previous 3bet hand that he played oddly as well as elaborated on my current image, but I guess I can give results now too.

He had KK

cd1680 · #15 01-15-2007, 03:38 AM

I would definitely at least call here. You said yourself that this guy overplays TPTK and overpairs. He is probably just overplaying them right now. He might have a bigger set but chances are very small and I don't see how you can fold set of 6s in this situation.

blackize · #16 01-15-2007, 03:41 AM

I didn't mean to imply that he overplays TPTK and overpairs just that he goes too far with them.

cd1680 · #17 01-15-2007, 03:43 AM

ok but still, I would have to say it's a mandatory call since you called preflop with 66 and you can't really hope for a better board

Nitilism · #18 01-15-2007, 04:20 AM

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Original raiser is pretty donkish/aggressive and short so I call in position. 3 bettor is 31/7.5/1.6 over 500. I've never seen him 3bet light, I think his range is QQ+ AK and maybe JJ and TT. We're deep, his range is small, he goes too far with overpairs/TPTK, and his 3 bet is too small so I call.

No Limit Holdem Ring game
Blinds: $0.25/$0.50
6 players
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Stack sizes:
UTG: $99.50
UTG+1: $24.31
CO: $41.55
Hero: $115.58
SB: $176.89
BB: $101.65

Pre-flop: (6 players) Hero is Button with 6[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] 6[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img]
UTG folds, UTG+1 raises to $2.5, CO folds, Hero calls, SB folds, BB raises to $7.5, UTG+1 folds, Hero calls.

Flop: 2[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] 6[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] J[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] ($17.75, 2 players)
BB checks, Hero bets $15, BB calls.

 This is a really good flop for me as I think he rarely holds JJ here and usually has an overpair. I bet just shy of the pot expecting a call from his overpair and a fold from AK. 

Turn: K[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] ($47.75, 2 players)
BB checks, Hero checks.

 I check behind because I don't think he calls QQ here and the only parts of his range I'm beating now are AK and AA. Maybe I can get more value from those hands on the river? 

River: 2[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] ($47.75, 2 players)
BB bets $59.5, Hero ?

 Uh oh. He's overbetting the pot. I can't remember if he's done this before so I'm not sure what to think of it. Do you think this is QQ AA or AK often enough to call here? 

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Fold, and then go back to STTF. If you are intent on learning poker, and can't get pasterbator to stake you (lol you begger) then try out $5 NL.

feesjah · #19 01-15-2007, 04:35 AM

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no just keep betting on turn!! and go all in on the river. No reason to be scared here especially at 50nl. You should fold preflop if you are going to be this passive on turn and river.

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blackize · #20 01-15-2007, 04:36 AM

1) Why be such a douche?
2) Why would you think I'm not looking to learn poker?
3) Why is trying to take someone up on a great offer begging? I have my own roll and I play within it. That offer would have allowed me to move up faster and learn faster.

How about you stop hiding behind your gimmick account and stop being an asshat who comes on these forums to berate those of us trying to learn?