Poker Stars: VPP per hand - post-legislation edition

[1p0kerboy]

I just realized something really weird.

You get more points playing $1/2 LHE(full) than you do $2/4 LHE(full).

They both award 1 point for a 5BB pot. At $2/4 you get an extra point every time the pot is 17.5BB which rarely happens. When it does happen it doesn't make up for the fact that at $1/2 you will reach the 5BB mark more often.

Has anybody else noticed this, or is my math off somewhere?

[CountingMyOuts]

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I just realized something really weird.

You get more points playing $1/2 LHE(full) than you do $2/4 LHE(full).

They both award 1 point for a 5BB pot. At $2/4 you get an extra point every time the pot is 17.5BB which rarely happens. When it does happen it doesn't make up for the fact that at $1/2 you will reach the 5BB mark more often.

Has anybody else noticed this, or is my math off somewhere?

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Must be that you are playing in $1/$2 limit games with pretty good average pot sizes. Over time I have 0.48 VPP/hand at $2/$4 and 0.44 VPP/hand at $1/$2.

[1p0kerboy]

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I just realized something really weird.

You get more points playing $1/2 LHE(full) than you do $2/4 LHE(full).

They both award 1 point for a 5BB pot. At $2/4 you get an extra point every time the pot is 17.5BB which rarely happens. When it does happen it doesn't make up for the fact that at $1/2 you will reach the 5BB mark more often.

Has anybody else noticed this, or is my math off somewhere?

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Must be that you are playing in $1/$2 limit games with pretty good average pot sizes. Over time I have 0.48 VPP/hand at $2/$4 and 0.44 VPP/hand at $1/$2.

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Smallish sample of low table averages.

1/2: .38/hand
2/4: .37/hand

Does the extra fpp at a $70 pot really come into play that often during peak hours?

[CountingMyOuts]

The $70 pots do seem to come in more often at the peak times (U.S. evenings), but it's more than just that. The average pot sizes in the peak hours are higher at $2/$4 and many tables they are over $20, so you get more of the 1 VPP hands than you do during the day time hours, where the $2/$4 games are much more tighter.

[MicroBob]

It's kind of common-knowledge but I think the situation may have been changing although I really don't know for sure.

You have more 1/2 limit games running with some total nits who are there just to earn points I think so that keeps the pot-avgs a bit lower. I think you will see more pre-flop liming in that game too so you will have more pots with 2 or 3 players that just won't make it to $10 whereas on 2/4 I think it is slightly more likely to make it past the $20 mark.

Overall though, I think it varies and probably mostly evens out to being roughly the same.

Of course, on 6-max the 2/4 games should be earning more points because the 2VPP barrier is only for a $40 pot which will happen often enough at 2/4 to make it worthwhile.

For a long time I thought the 1/2 games were earning a VPP at an $8 pot until I realized they didn't rake in nickels at that level. So I thought 1/2 was definitely the better spot to earn cheap VPP's vs. 2/4.

[SteveL91]

For 3/6 6m LHE, I'm getting .73 VPP/hand; for 5/10 6m LHE, I'm getting 1.13 VPP/hand; 10/20 6m LHE is 1.4 VPP/hand.

[MicroBob]

which, btw, is pretty much what you would have been getting pre-legislation imo.

[SteveL91]

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which, btw, is pretty much what you would have been getting pre-legislation imo.

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I only played about 100 combined hands at 3/6 and 5/10 pre-legislation on Stars, but I did play a fair amount of 10/20 at 1.46 VPP/hand. Considering how close it is, I tend to doubt there'd be an appreciable difference at 3/6 or 5/10.

[1p0kerboy]

Bigger samples from my pooh-flinging expedition.

Mostly non-peak, full ring:
.5/1: .24VPP/hand
1/2: .36VPP/hand
2/4: .36VPP/hand

Mostly peak, full ring:
3/6: .45VPP/hand

[sethypooh21]

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Bigger samples from my pooh-flinging expedition.

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I'd appreciate it if you at least asked before, you know, flinging me.