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Old 08-15-2007, 11:28 PM
durron597 durron597 is offline
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Default I don\'t think I want Collin Moshman posting on STTF anymore

Original thread:

http://forumserver.twoplustwo.com/sh...umber=11681623

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http://forumserver.twoplustwo.com/sh...umber=11689304

Mat? Mason? cit/wiggs/devin? thoughts?
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Old 08-15-2007, 11:30 PM
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Default Re: I don\'t think I want Collin Moshman posting on STTF anymore

Oh, more details on point 4:

I really think that almost everything Collin writes (including his book) is designed specifically for the purpose of making the higher stakes sngs better (by getting people to move up before they're ready, making them enough better at low stakes sngs that they may decide to move up but not actually get good at them, etc.)

edit: i also don't care if collin reads this, it's a private forum - no harm, no foul. i certainly don't intend to try to hurt 2+2 book sales. if my assessment is unfounded then collin is free to correct me here and I will apologize at that time.
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Old 08-15-2007, 11:50 PM
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Default Re: I don\'t think I want Collin Moshman posting on STTF anymore

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Old 08-16-2007, 12:18 AM
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Default Re: I don\'t think I want Collin Moshman posting on STTF anymore

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PS If you are indeed a high-volume low-mid stakes player, PM me if you’re interested in potentially earning some free money/coaching.


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Although it is a touch slimmy, I didn't really think it overly spammy or anything, so I just let it go.

As for the content of his post, well...I don't know. It's really hard to say what his motivation is here.

I, myself, would much prefer to play 4 $200 sngs than 20-$10 ones, even if my hourly was slightly less. So, I kind of agree with him.
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Old 08-16-2007, 12:45 AM
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Default Re: I don\'t think I want Collin Moshman posting on STTF anymore

My 2 cents - you should have picked up the phone and talked to Mat rather than make a post and lock the thread. 2+2 has a lot invested in Colin's success, its a slim line. I understand your intentions were good, but this is an issue that requires Mat and Mason's input.
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Old 08-16-2007, 02:21 AM
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Default Re: I don\'t think I want Collin Moshman posting on STTF anymore

TT,

What the hell do you think the point of this thread is? Expecting us to call Mat and Mason is ridic. A pm maybe, but I think if a mod is going to lock a thread by a 2p2 author, a public explanation is best, simply because people are going to ask anyway.

I question casting motives onto people as a general practice, so I think that's a silly part of the conversation. I do seem to recall that this isn't the first issue people have taken with this text though, right?

Just on it's own merits, that post is pretty horrible and condescending. 2p2 authors aren't gong to be very successful if they're mostly talking down to their target demo.
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Old 08-16-2007, 02:32 AM
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Default Re: I don\'t think I want Collin Moshman posting on STTF anymore

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TT,

What the hell do you think the point of this thread is?

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Mods should not be making decisions for the publishing company. Publicly scolding a 2+2 author while locking his thread, then posting about it here isn't the same thing as giving Mat a call so he can deal with it on his own, Mat has always asked us to do that if something needs his immediate attention.
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Old 08-16-2007, 02:43 AM
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Default Re: I don\'t think I want Collin Moshman posting on STTF anymore

I'm sure Mat is fine with a PM or call.

If I had been in durron's spot, I would have taken my concerns to Mat before doing anything. Bringing it up after taking action doesn't seem like the right way to approach this.
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Old 08-16-2007, 03:07 AM
Mat Sklansky Mat Sklansky is offline
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Default Re: I don\'t think I want Collin Moshman posting on STTF anymore

situation like this in the future:

move the thread here and pm us.
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Old 08-16-2007, 03:49 AM
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I'm sure Mat is fine with a PM or call.

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Apparently this point of my post wasn't clear, calling vs PM doesn't matter. To clarify my point was that this is the kind of situation that calls for Mat's involvement rather than a mods. If a mod in this situation feels like something has to be done right away without delay then making a call is far better than taking matters into his or her own hands.
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