25NL Ahigh river call?

[KRS ONE]

Villan is 36.3/15.0/1.20 ~80 hands. No history thus far.

Something to consider is that he timed down heaps on each street before he acted in what felt like a deliberate way, does anyone else put stock into these timing tells?

Party Poker, $0.10/$0.25 NL Hold'em Cash Game, 5 Players
LegoPoker Hand History Converter

UTG: $23.90
CO: $65.25
Hero (BTN): $66.35
SB: $15.67
BB: $24.75

Pre-Flop: Q[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] A[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] dealt to Hero (BTN)
UTG calls $0.25, CO calls $0.25, <font color="red">Hero raises to $2</font>, 3 folds, CO calls $1.75

Flop: ($4.60) J[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] 3[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] 8[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] (2 Players)
CO checks, <font color="red">Hero bets $3</font>, CO calls $3

Turn: ($10.60) 2[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] (2 Players)
CO checks, Hero checks

River: ($10.60) 8[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] (2 Players)
<font color="red">CO bets $4.75</font>, Hero ....

[checktheriver]

Fold river. The only draw he could have on the flop is T9, and he will more often have mid pps, a weak J or stuff like 78s here. Basically you only beat a bluff, and there's not many hands he'd call the flop with that would be bluffs by the river. Unless you have a read that he floats oop weirdly, just fold and move on.

[ShipitFMA]

Why are you opening 8x ?

[KRS ONE]

Two limpers + dude has a big stack so i want to build a big pot with a hand i'm sure is beating his.

Usually i'd make it ~$1.50 here, but i just felt like opening bigger and trying to play a pot IP V another weaker big stack.

[Scapegote]

I don't put much stock in timing tells unless if it's really out of character for someone. Except for if a fish takes forever and then raises, usually that's a monster.

Here I raise less pf ($1.5, 4x BB +1BB for each limper). And I fold the river, there's only one real draw out there and he could easily have an 8, jack, pocket pair.

But hey, Kenny Tran would call

[KRS ONE]

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Fold river. The only draw he could have on the flop is T9, and he will more often have mid pps, a weak J or stuff like 78s here. Basically you only beat a bluff, and there's not many hands he'd call the flop with that would be bluffs by the river. Unless you have a read that he floats oop weirdly, just fold and move on.

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MY feeling was if he had a hand like 78s he'd act a lot quicker on all streets, the way the table had been playing I think he leads a J on the flop.

Plus hes betting 4.75 into $10+ so im getting a solid 3:1 on my money.

[DaycareInferno]

him taking a long time shouldn't lean you towards calling with a hand you normally wouldn't. generally people don't think for a long time before bluffing. not that it should be that big of a deal either way.