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[BrassMonkey]

Is this one of those hands where, if I call the turn, I have to call the river, or can I fold this river?

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Preflop: Hero is CO with J[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img], J[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img].
<font color="#666666">2 folds</font>, <font color="#CC3333">Hero raises</font>, <font color="#666666">1 fold</font>, <font color="#CC3333">SB 3-bets</font>, <font color="#666666">1 fold</font>, <font color="#CC3333">Hero caps</font>, SB calls.

Flop: (9 SB) 2[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img], 8[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img], 6[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(2 players)</font>
SB checks, <font color="#CC3333">Hero bets</font>, <font color="#CC3333">SB raises</font>, Hero calls.

Turn: (6.50 BB) A[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(2 players)</font>
<font color="#CC3333">SB bets</font>, Hero calls.

River: (8.50 BB) 8[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(2 players)</font>
<font color="#CC3333">SB bets</font>, Hero ?

[Carmine]

If I wanted to call this river I'd raise the turn instead and fold to a 3-bet because you played the flop like AK. I would have 3-bet the flop in the actual hand though and then not know what to do on that turn card. Not because I think it hits villians hand very often but he can use it to bluff-raise with all worse PP and that puts us in a tough spot. Mathamatically were behind so many hands but as played how much do we discount all those Ax hands

[Oink]

First of all. I 3-bet the flop for value.

As played the turn is not so much of a bad card for you as the river is.

Against an unknown or retard I call the river hoping to see cheese or a lower pp.

Against a good player I dont like calling. If my image is SD bound I fold.

I mean your hand looks like Ax and he doesnt seem to care. He shouldnt really be betting 99 here IMO as you wont ever call with a worse hand.

[BryanC]

Folding sucks but I think we have to here, dont see us winning this showdown against any decent villian. If the river wasnt a spade I probably call, I think calling the turn is OK as long as we know what our plan is on the river i.e what rivers are we folding and what cards are safe for us

[Oink]

Folding the turn is out of the question

Unless he has A8 or Asxs he didnt catch up with us.

I also disagree that turn presents a tough decision if we 3-bet the flop. Completely standard bet/call against someone who is smart enough to bluff c/r this turn but dumb enough to not realize that hero should know the turn prolly didnt help villain.

[BrassMonkey]

I ran Stove for this hand, and discovered that my fold was horrible if villian would bet TT or JJ on this river. With those two hands included, I have 17.5% equity. I was surprised by this, given how easy the fold felt to me at the time. I wanted to see what your gut feelings were, though.

Also, I didn't three bet the flop because I didn't feel there WAS much value against his range (that's another Stove, though).

Board: 2s 8h 6s Ah 8s
Dead:

equity win tie pots won pots tied
Hand 0: 82.432% 81.08% 01.35% 30 0.50 { KK-TT, 88, 66, 22, AsKs, AsQs, AsJs, AsTs, As9s, As8s, As7s, As6s, KsQs, KsJs, KsTs, QsJs, QsTs }
Hand 1: 17.568% 16.22% 01.35% 6 0.50 { JdJh }

[acehole60]

I 3-bet this flop very often for value. I never ever fold turn and calls river against most villains although that 8s is a bad card.

[acehole60]

What about 79, 2x, 6x and 8x and small pps??
You havent included a read on villain but these hands are fair to expect on the flop and the turn. Some vilains will follow through on the river too getting a good price on a bluff on the scary card... you havent shown any strength so I think he will be betting a broad spectrum of his range.

[acehole60]

Sorry, just saw he 3-bet preflop.. that changes things.

[inferno]

call