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Old 11-01-2007, 02:52 PM
Schwang Schwang is offline
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Default Online card counting

I was wondering if it's possible to count cards at live dealer blackjack games. Playtech has this option. I think it's a six deck games, but I don't know how much penetration is allowed.
The dealing is very slow so it's difficult to make a good hourly wage, but I was just wondering if a player can have an edge in these games.
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Old 11-03-2007, 02:22 AM
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It's a 6 deck game with ~50% pen and very marginal rules. It's the best "live dealer" blackjack game online albeit the slowest. Your hourly rate would be minimal and long term your risk of ruin will approach 100% (I know I've run a sim on this particular game).
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Old 11-03-2007, 11:03 AM
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why not multi-account/wong?
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Old 11-03-2007, 02:00 PM
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doesn't risk of ruin depend on bankroll and betsize?
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Old 11-03-2007, 03:12 PM
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Default Re: Online card counting

You can multitabling also.
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Old 11-03-2007, 06:32 PM
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Yes. What I meant is using fairly large bankroll and fairly small bets to keep the RoR low will result in terrible win rates. Anything else will have marginally higher win rates but with much larger risk of ruin. Wonging was used in all my sims. Check out the BJ sim tool here:

http://www.blackjackforumonline.com/...mSimp_Beta.htm
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Old 11-14-2007, 07:47 PM
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Yes, but with 50% pen, it's a very poor game, so risk of ruin will be high for any reasonable bankroll.
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Old 11-18-2007, 07:55 PM
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why not multi-account/wong?
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Old 11-20-2007, 11:33 AM
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Old 11-20-2007, 05:58 PM
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Read the thread.

I ran sims on this game with BJ PowerSim (link above) using Wonging, betting only when the TC was +1 or above. Still it produced poor horrible win rates even with a large BR. The game is not profitable.
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