tough 2p2 donks turn scare card

[sethypooh21]

Villain is one of the top 5 or so posters in this here forum

PokerStars $10/$20 Limit Hold'em - 4 players
Hand Converter Tool from DeucesCracked.com

Preflop: Hero is CO with 9[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img], T[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img]
<font color="#FF0000">Hero raises</font>, Button folds, SB folds, BB calls.

Flop: (4.50 SB) 9[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img], J[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img], A[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(2 players)</font>
BB checks, <font color="#FF0000">Hero bets</font>, BB calls.

Turn: (3.25 BB) 4[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(2 players)</font>
<font color="#FF0000">BB bets</font>,

[TheHip41]

you lose

[BryanC]

[ QUOTE ]
you lose

[/ QUOTE ]

Yeah probably, but more importantly what exactly do you think this bet means? could easily be a cheap semi bluff IMO but im not sure, hate it when people do this

[TheHip41]

[ QUOTE ]
[ QUOTE ]
you lose

[/ QUOTE ]

Yeah probably, but more importantly what exactly do you think this bet means? could easily be a cheap semi bluff IMO but im not sure, hate it when people do this

[/ QUOTE ]


it means you lose.

I don't think the pot is big enough to do anything but fold here.

[yourface]

I interpret this turn lead as something like BP/MP that wasn't strong enough to c/r the flop but now wants to charge flush draws, or a straight draw that picked up the flush draw too. something like Qs8c. I think a flush is possible some of the time too

hopefully villain will drop by at some point and enlighten us

[BryanC]

[ QUOTE ]
it means you lose.

I don't think the pot is big enough to do anything but fold here.


[/ QUOTE ]

Im not debating it, I fold here too we have a weak hand and no good redraws its a no brainer IMO. Im just curious how you intrepret his play here coz it confuses me when people take this line

[sethypooh21]

[ QUOTE ]
[ QUOTE ]
it means you lose.

I don't think the pot is big enough to do anything but fold here.


[/ QUOTE ]

Im not debating it, I fold here too we have a weak hand and no good redraws its a no brainer IMO. Im just curious how you intrepret his play here coz it confuses me when people take this line

[/ QUOTE ]

Right - I mean without a strong read (as in, villain is tilty/FPSy Heisenberg, which this isn't) fold is reasonably easy, but wtf does he have?

[Oink]

I dont think folding here is that easy cuz his line is bs

No c/r with fd on this flop? bs

No c/r on flop with Ax? Maybe, but I lean towards bs

This looks like Jx or 9x that dont wanna hand out free cards.

Against a range of those hands and the possibility of picking up the pot on a spade river I dont think folding here is "easy".

Not saying I call. But when people play bs lines you should at least think twice before you fold.

[BryanC]

[ QUOTE ]
Right - I mean without a strong read (as in, villain is tilty/FPSy Heisenberg, which this isn't) fold is reasonably easy, but wtf does he have?

[/ QUOTE ]

I dunno bro, confuses the [censored] out of me when good players do this.

Coming from a true donk ive noticed that it often means theyve turned a weak two pair but I really dont think thats the case here.

I would tend to agree with yourface I think his range is weighted towards pair/draw combos containing a [img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] which is why id usualy fold. Maybe some players do this with a naked [img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] I dont know.

Realy throws me off too when a good opponent takes his line, kinda annoys me...

[vmacosta]

i usually raise here and usually lose.