FTOPS 300 - Kings & Queens - 2 hands

[People_Mover]

Full Tilt Poker, NL Hold'em Tournament, 100/200 Blinds, 9 Players
LeggoPoker Hand History Converter

UTG+1: 5,680
Hero (UTG+2): 5,100
MP1: 10,542
MP2: 8,008
CO: 15,900
BTN: 2,540
SB: 790
BB: 1,590
UTG: 1,510

Pre-Flop: (300) K[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] K[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] dealt to Hero (UTG+2)
2 folds, <font color="red">Hero raises to 550</font>, 5 folds, BB calls 350

Flop: (1,200) A[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] 4[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] 4[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] (2 Players)
BB checks

he has 1040 left

Hand #2

Full Tilt Poker, NL Hold'em Tournament, 120/240 Blinds, 25 Ante, 9 Players
LeggoPoker Hand History Converter

MP2: 4,770
Hero (CO): 4,720
BTN: 6,962
SB: 10,668
BB: 15,930
UTG: 39,929
UTG+1: 5,470
UTG+2: 4,040
MP1: 8,973

Pre-Flop: (585) Q[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] Q[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] dealt to Hero (CO)
2 folds, <font color="red">UTG+2 raises to 960</font>, 2 folds

Hero?

Shoves it or wait for safe flop?

[zizazziza]

1) check, shove/call turn. shoving flop i think only gets calls by As and this way it will let BB bluff/call with worse PP
2) shove. 25% of your stack is in the middle. Also 25% of UTG+2 stack, there is a good chance he isnt getting away from his Ax here.

[Cornell Fiji]

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Hand #2

Full Tilt Poker, NL Hold'em Tournament, 120/240 Blinds, 25 Ante, 9 Players
LeggoPoker Hand History Converter

MP2: 4,770
Hero (CO): 4,720
BTN: 6,962
SB: 10,668
BB: 15,930
UTG: 39,929
UTG+1: 5,470
UTG+2: 4,040
MP1: 8,973

Pre-Flop: (585) Q Q dealt to Hero (CO)
2 folds, UTG+2 raises to 960, 2 folds

Hero?

Shoves it or wait for safe flop?


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This question shows a severe fundemental lack of understanding about tournament poker.

What exactly is your thought process for justifying a call and getting it in on a "safe" flop?

What do you think his UTG+2 raising range is? Which of those hands is he calling a pf shove with? What do you think his continuation bet frequency will be when he whiffs his pocket pair on an ace high flop?... I could keep going but it seems like you are not thinking critically but instead you are thinking about how many times he flops an ace with his AK vs. your QQ.

I'll give you a hint, you are losing because you only have 4,720 chips left because you call too much and wait for safe flops. You are losing because you don't have people covered when you do race with QQ vs. AK and you can't afford to lose the flip (with a nice overlay as a favorite). You are not losing because you got your money in as a favorite against his range and just got 'unlucky'

[mlagoo]

check first one, what ziza said.

this is kinda harsh but the second one is a ridiculously trivial shove, not sure why its posted.

[People_Mover]

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This question shows a severe fundemental lack of understanding about tournament poker.

What exactly is your thought process for justifying a call and getting it in on a "safe" flop?
You are not losing because you got your money in as a favorite against his range and just got 'unlucky'

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I never said I didn't shove pre [img]/images/graemlins/wink.gif[/img] (which I did shove pre)

I [img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] your post lol

Hi mlagoo, hope all is well buddy [img]/images/graemlins/smile.gif[/img]

[Mench]

hand 1 is def a check and call/shove turn
hand 2 is a shove, i think JJ is somewhat interesting since villain opened 4x