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Old 11-30-2007, 07:10 PM
JammyDodga JammyDodga is offline
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Default Re: Can you believe in certain things without being religious?

Easy, give us one piece of evidence or research of any kind in favour of the kind of stuff you are talking about which you think will stand up to scrutiny.
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Old 11-30-2007, 07:25 PM
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Default Re: Can you believe in certain things without being religious?

Alright, NDE of Pam Reynolds

http://near-death.com/experiences/evidence01.html

Probably the best case in favour for an NDE.
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Old 11-30-2007, 07:31 PM
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Default Re: Can you believe in certain things without being religious?

How can the brain in such a state, produce such a powerful experience?
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Old 11-30-2007, 07:34 PM
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Default Re: Can you believe in certain things without being religious?

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How can the brain in such a state, produce such a powerful experience?

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You have evidence of WHEN the experience occurs? Ok, let's hear it.

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Old 11-30-2007, 07:50 PM
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Default Re: Can you believe in certain things without being religious?

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pam_Reynolds'_NDE

its all in there, along with the skeptical arguements. I'm not asking any of you to consider this as proof as survival, but what i am asking you since she was able to recall events during her operation, would even consider the possibility that the event even took place?
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Old 12-01-2007, 01:42 AM
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How can the brain in such a state, produce such a powerful experience?

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You have evidence of WHEN the experience occurs? Ok, let's hear it.

luckyme

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http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pam_Reynolds'_NDE

its all in there, along with the skeptical arguements. I'm not asking any of you to consider this as proof as survival, but what i am asking you since she was able to recall events during her operation, would even consider the possibility that the event even took place?

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You misunderstood. I meant, "Do you have any evidence of WHEN the experience occurs?"

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Old 12-01-2007, 06:12 AM
JammyDodga JammyDodga is offline
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Default Re: Can you believe in certain things without being religious?

How can you possibly think this is scientific evidence? If that is the best you can do, you really dont have a leg to stand on.

1. She could have made it up with the help of one or more of the nurses
2. She could have hallucinated it either before she was made fully b raindead or after
3. She could have had some memories from during the operation, but she wasn't dead, she was in a state of near death, it really is different.
4. The website could have been making it up.
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