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Old 08-15-2007, 06:57 PM
etown etown is offline
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Default 3 dollar rebuy deep AK tourney life decision

my image was good since i recently got to this table and hadnt played many hands utg

when this hand came up at this point there were 156 remaining in the tourney

> PokerStars Game #11506403216: Tournament #57909106, $3.00+$0.30 Hold'em No Limit - Level XVI (2000/4000) - 2007/08/15 - 18:35:07 (ET)
> Table '57909106 41' 9-max Seat #9 is the button
> Seat 1: Garfield66 (40860 in chips)
> Seat 2: voorkennis (48929 in chips)
> Seat 3: xtotimerx (95952 in chips)
> Seat 4: ALAAFJONGE (115116 in chips)
> Seat 5: hiphoppy (25704 in chips)
> Seat 6: Ice-Ace81 (148843 in chips)
> Seat 8: JoHnNy$tack$ (19700 in chips)
> Seat 9: Rscat1 (113558 in chips)
> Garfield66: posts the ante 400
> voorkennis: posts the ante 400
> xtotimerx: posts the ante 400
> ALAAFJONGE: posts the ante 400
> hiphoppy: posts the ante 400
> Ice-Ace81: posts the ante 400
> JoHnNy$tack$: posts the ante 400
> Rscat1: posts the ante 400
> Garfield66: posts small blind 2000
> voorkennis: posts big blind 4000
> *** HOLE CARDS ***
> Dealt to xtotimerx [Kc Ah]
> xtotimerx said, "ive seen it all"
> xtotimerx: raises 8000 to 12000
> ALAAFJONGE: folds
> hiphoppy: folds
> Ice-Ace81: calls 12000
> JoHnNy$tack$: folds
> Rscat1: folds
> Garfield66: folds
> voorkennis: folds
> *** FLOP *** [6d 5h 2c]
> xtotimerx: bets 14800
> Ice-Ace81: raises 14800 to 29600
> xtotimerx: raises 53952 to 83552 and is all-in
> Ice-Ace81: calls 53952
> *** TURN *** [6d 5h 2c] [Tc]
> *** RIVER *** [6d 5h 2c Tc] [Ts]
> Rscat1 said, "good call"
> *** SHOW DOWN ***
> xtotimerx: shows [Kc Ah] (a pair of Tens)
> Ice-Ace81: shows [Jd Js] (two pair, Jacks and Tens)
> Ice-Ace81 collected 200304 from pot
> Rscat1 said, "gg?"
> Ice-Ace81 said, "whew"
> Ice-Ace81 said, "gg"
> *** SUMMARY ***
> Total pot 200304 | Rake 0
> Board [6d 5h 2c Tc Ts]
> Seat 1: Garfield66 (small blind) folded before Flop
> Seat 2: voorkennis (big blind) folded before Flop
> Seat 3: xtotimerx showed [Kc Ah] and lost with a pair of Tens
> Seat 4: ALAAFJONGE folded before Flop (didn't bet)
> Seat 5: hiphoppy folded before Flop (didn't bet)
> Seat 6: Ice-Ace81 showed [Jd Js] and won (200304) with two pair, Jacks and Tens
> Seat 8: JoHnNy$tack$ folded before Flop (didn't bet)
> Seat 9: Rscat1 (button) folded before Flop (didn't bet)

i thought for about two seconds b4 the shove and i dont regret it but id like feedback on his call

and whether i shoulda have gotten away from it
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Old 08-15-2007, 07:34 PM
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Default Re: 3 dollar rebuy deep AK tourney life decision

fold the flop, no one minraise folds pairs on that tiny of a board.
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Old 08-15-2007, 07:44 PM
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Default Re: 3 dollar rebuy deep AK tourney life decision

If I was Ice Age I would have shoved preflop.
I think youre cbet is fine, I dont really know about ure flop 3bet all-in.
Lets do an analisis.
You Fold: 68752
He folds : 134352
You lose showdown : 0
You win showdown: 199504


At this point the shoves looks fine. Im guessing he will fold more than 25% of the time making the shove +EV.
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Old 08-15-2007, 07:45 PM
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Default Re: 3 dollar rebuy deep AK tourney life decision

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fold the flop, no one minraise folds pairs on that tiny of a board.

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Some people minraise fold KQ though.
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Old 08-15-2007, 07:54 PM
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Default Re: 3 dollar rebuy deep AK tourney life decision

ill add as well this was a reasonable size of his stack and if he was confident with his jacks he would have rr pf i think

but he wasnt sure if i had the goods

he did time down his full time bank and i think he made a crying call

im quite expierienced with a big stack as well and knew that if i took that down i would final table
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Old 08-15-2007, 08:20 PM
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Default Re: 3 dollar rebuy deep AK tourney life decision

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im quite expierienced with a big stack as well and knew that if i took that down i would final table

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u were OK until u made this retarded statement. You are going to make the final table less than 20% of the time if u win that pot.
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Old 08-15-2007, 09:26 PM
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Default Re: 3 dollar rebuy deep AK tourney life decision

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when this hand came up at this point there were 156 remaining in the tourney


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im quite expierienced with a big stack as well and knew that if i took that down i would final table

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Old 08-16-2007, 10:09 AM
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Default Re: 3 dollar rebuy deep AK tourney life decision

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my image was good since i recently got to this table and hadnt played many hands utg

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This is your first leak. DON'T EVER assume that $3 donks pay attention to your image. You could fold for 2 hours and they would still call your PF raise with A3o.
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Old 08-16-2007, 11:04 AM
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Default Re: 3 dollar rebuy deep AK tourney life decision

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my image was good since i recently got to this table and hadnt played many hands utg

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This is your first leak. DON'T EVER assume that $3 donks pay attention to your image. You could fold for 2 hours and they would still call your PF raise with A3o.

[/ QUOTE ]And by ever he means NEVER EVER. Seriously, I've folded 30 hands in a row then pick up AK and KK on successive hands and got some clever donk reraising with Ax cause I open 2 in a row...

Edit: oh yeah, fold to the donk minraise and you'll still have plenty of fold equity for shoving with your short stack on future hands. Lots of times you're in worse shape than him having JJ cause he's got A6 and still won't fold cause he hit OMG top pair.
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Old 08-16-2007, 12:32 PM
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Default Re: 3 dollar rebuy deep AK tourney life decision

these micro tournaments are brutal sometimes - - there is no such thing as table image and you can't really try to ever bluff b/c they will call you w/ mid pair and win anyways... I wish someone could come up w/ some sort of strategy to getting deep in these but I don't know...
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