folding KK preflop

insyder19 · #1 09-09-2007, 06:11 PM

Okay, it's getting sick because I lost like 8 KK's vs AA's preflop all in this months already, in basically 20k hands.

So I am really thinking of how to fold KK preflop. What are the usual signs of AA?

Like here it's an easy fold?

Titan No-Limit Hold'em, $0.25/$0.50BB (Titan HH Converter by Kreatief)

MP2 ($51.40)
MP3 ($49.25)
CO ($41.80)
Button ($49.25) (Hero)
SB ($31.60)
BB ($58.84)

Preflop: Hero is Button with K[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img], K[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img]
MP2 raises to 2.0, 1 folds, CO calls $2.00, Hero raises to 8.0, 1 folds, BB raises to 27.0, 2 folds, Hero raises to 49.25, BB calls $21.75,

Flop: 9[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img], 8[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img], 7[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] ( $102.75 )

Turn: 8[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] ( $102.75 )

River: 7[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] ( $102.75 )

Final Pot: $99.75

Results:
Hero has K[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img], K[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img]
BB has A[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img], A[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img]
Outcome: BB wins $99.75

Or here?

Titan No-Limit Hold'em, $0.25/$0.50BB (Titan HH Converter by Kreatief)

BB ($50.00)
MP2 ($49.25)
MP3 ($53.55)
CO ($58.95) (Hero)
Button ($27.95)
SB ($50.95)

Preflop: Hero is CO with K[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img], K[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img]
MP2 calls $0.50, 1 folds, Hero raises to 2.0, 3 folds, MP2 raises to 5.0, Hero raises to 17.0, MP2 raises to 30.0, Hero raises to 58.95, MP2 raises All-In $48.75,

Flop: 9[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img], Q[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img], Q[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] ( $108.95 )

Turn: 7[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] ( $108.95 )

River: 2[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] ( $108.95 )

Final Pot: $105.95

Results:
MP2 has A[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img], A[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img]
Hero has K[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img], K[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img]
Outcome: MP2 wins $96.25
Outcome: Hero wins $9.70

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Overall, have anyone of you ever folded KK preflop in a cashgame if not deep?

This one was sick too:

Titan No-Limit Hold'em, $0.25/$0.50BB (Titan HH Converter by Kreatief)

MP3 ($73.29)
CO ($27.15)
Button ($64.35)
SB ($49.10)
BB ($87.30) (Hero)

Preflop: Hero is BB with K[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img], K[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img]
MP3 raises to 2.0, 3 folds, Hero raises to 8.0, MP3 calls $6.50,

Flop: 8[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img], 2[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img], J[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] ( $17.25 )
Hero bets $12.00, MP3 raises to 24.0, Hero raises to 78.8, MP3 raises All-In $64.79,

Turn: T[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] ( $160.84 )

River: 2[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] ( $160.84 )

Final Pot: $157.84

Results:
MP3 has A[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img], A[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img]
Hero has K[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img], K[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img]
Outcome: MP3 wins $143.83
Outcome: Hero wins $14.01

whyzze · #2 09-09-2007, 06:14 PM

hands 1 and 2 are standard

hand 3 I probably would have called his flop raise and got it in on the turn.

hitch1978 · #3 09-09-2007, 06:15 PM

In the low limits there is a pretty reliable tell. If someone types 'I have aces' pre-flop in the chatbox, then they do. This tell is 6/6 for me, and is the only time I have ever folded KK pre-flop (He showed his AA).

Apart from that 1 tell I never fold KK pre.

MrWooster · #4 09-09-2007, 06:20 PM

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I never fold KK pre.

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sightless · #5 09-09-2007, 06:23 PM

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I never fold KK pre.

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kaz2107 · #6 09-09-2007, 06:24 PM

run better. i promise if u start folding kk preflop u wont start runnin better n e quicker

Jzo19 · #7 09-09-2007, 06:25 PM

in b4 lock

ama0330 · #8 09-09-2007, 06:50 PM

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insyder19 · #9 09-09-2007, 07:03 PM

So, even if someone is reraising my RERAISE you guys would push? I don't think I ever run so often into AA with KK like I did in the past 2 weeks.

ama0330 · #10 09-09-2007, 07:03 PM

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So, even if someone is reraising my RERAISE you guys would push? I don't think I ever run so often into AA with KK like I did in the past 2 weeks.

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DONT FOLD KK PRE