An “Only in LA” Story - The Dealer Stall and the $1 pot!

[private joker]

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Good stuff, Rick. Very entertaining.


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I like the possibilities of the all-in-for-$1 wrinkle.

What if in Rick's story the LP player and BB were both all in for $1? Would the winner have to pony up an extra buck? Would the SB be obligated to match the BB? Lots of potential here... [img]/images/graemlins/smile.gif[/img]

[RR]

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I like the possibilities of the all-in-for-$1 wrinkle.

What if in Rick's story the LP player and BB were both all in for $1? Would the winner have to pony up an extra buck? Would the SB be obligated to match the BB? Lots of potential here... [img]/images/graemlins/smile.gif[/img]

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I was only there a couple of months after they switched to taking it from the pot and I dealt quite a few hands at 1-2 where there was no pot. I also remember a hand I dealt where Rick was in the blind and there was a single limper and he moved faster than I had ever seen him move to keep me form flopping so he could see if the limper wanted to chop.

[Rick Nebiolo]

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I like the possibilities of the all-in-for-$1 wrinkle.

What if in Rick's story the LP player and BB were both all in for $1? Would the winner have to pony up an extra buck? Would the SB be obligated to match the BB? Lots of potential here... [img]/images/graemlins/smile.gif[/img]

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I was only there a couple of months after they switched to taking it from the pot and I dealt quite a few hands at 1-2 where there was no pot. I also remember a hand I dealt where Rick was in the blind and there was a single limper and he moved faster than I had ever seen him move to keep me form flopping so he could see if the limper wanted to chop.

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I've never seen the clubs go so far as to ask a player to reach into his pocket for an extra buck. But usually you can't take the BB unless you have the amount of the BB (I could be wrong on this BTW). In any event, limit games below 2/4 (and even 2/4) are very rare in LA.

Randy - Keep in mind even the upper level managers (when they played) would do this in the case of the single limper.

~ Rick

[RR]

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Randy - Keep in mind even the upper level managers (when they played) would do this in the case of the single limper.

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Yes I know. When they first put this in it was even worse becasue there was only one blind in those games.

[Rick Nebiolo]

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Randy - Keep in mind even the upper level managers (when they played) would do this in the case of the single limper.

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Yes I know. When they first put this in it was even worse becasue there was only one blind in those games.

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I was horrified when I first started working at the Bike and saw the single blind in the smaller holdem and Omaha games. What was even worse was that the $1 "modified" drop and $1 jackpot drop was taken BEFORE the hand was dealt. So what you saw in the bread and butter low limit game of 3/6 holdem was a single lonely $1 blue chip and the button. Even the normally loose low limit players were discouraged from entering the pots early and no action hands were common. Get a few of those in a short period and the games often break.

After I gained a little (and I mean little) influence I went on a tour of every cardroom to see EXACTLY how they collected. I wrote a detailed report and recommended that the club go back to two blinds, stop taking a jackpot drop on no flop (they didn't go for no flop, no drop), and don't touch the pot until after the flop comes down. If there is no flop the SB pays the $1 modified drop. So instead of looking at one lonely chip in 3/6 you now had four chips in play before the hand started and some action. It was my observation that business improved shortly after, but we did have to take some heat from nits (which I told my boss to expect so we were prepared).

Keep in mind at this time the Commerce was taking $4 in a 3/6 game if someone open raised and the blinds folded.

~ Rick

[Bulbarainey]

good story, the rake here sucks and I hope one day someone opens a percentage rake casino... but
this is the only 1/2NL game ive heard of around town that has a 100$ cap. also in cardplayer I saw an ad saying that for just 5 hours of poker play you get a free room. why is this place not packed?

[AlienBoy]

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Had no clue LA raake system is soo bad

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It's worse. Hollywood park is a $4 rake and $1 JP rake for 3/6. Others are $3 rake and $1 JP rake for 3/6 or 4/8.

And they all take at least $1 even if you chop.

In 3/6 and 4/8 you can expect at least $150 to leave the table an hour for rake and tips. If yyou are at a table where everyone is evenly matched, watch as everyone's stacks slowly dwindle down at the same rate, like a candle burning.

Fortunately, LA is full of donks, able to pump the pot.


AB

[AlienBoy]

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good story, the rake here sucks and I hope one day someone opens a percentage rake casino... but
this is the only 1/2NL game ive heard of around town that has a 100$ cap. also in cardplayer I saw an ad saying that for just 5 hours of poker play you get a free room. why is this place not packed?

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It's a tiny room in the middle of the ghetto.


AB

[AlienBoy]

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But usually you can't take the BB unless you have the amount of the BB (I could be wrong on this BTW).

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You can take the BB short if it puts you all in. But any callers must call the full BB.

AB