I really suck with getting money from fish

[VPIP100]

Am I the only one who think a shove is spew here? He doesnt ever call with a set/2 pair on this board, hardly ever with a T. And I dont think he bets the river with either one of these. I think call > rest and cry because you lost this hand.

[Floyd13]

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Am I the only one who think a shove is spew here? He doesnt ever call with a set/2 pair on this board, hardly ever with a T. And I dont think he bets the river with either one of these. I think call > rest and cry because you lost this hand.

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This hand is not against one of us. He's a donkey that is not using this logic. I expect him to call with all the hands you listed. I've even seen these guys call with TP because they hate to get bluffed.

Also, what hands are you shoving here? Just the nuts? I don't see how our hand is any different than a T or J high flush.

[VPIP100]

Im just saying he wont call with those hands, even donkeys can read boards. Shoving is spew imho.

[traz]

shoving is good

[Grandezza]

a timing tell would be nice here.. w/o one I raise all day long. If he took a while calling the turn I MIGHT just call depending on how much I'm stuck.

once he's potted the river I doubt he's folding (unless he's one a complete bluff which is very unlikely). this is something worse than a ten very rarely though.

[SABR42]

Shove river.

IMO don't play this hand pf if you don't get AI against a donk when you hit just about the best hand you can.

[Speedlimits]

pf is kinda weird but fine.

flop is good
turn is fine
Just raise to like $150 on river, definitely raise>call though.

[joseki]

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you don't have implied odds and you aren't folding out a fish very often.

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Can both assertions be true here?

[yad]

oh holy cow how can you do anything but shove here.

he will call you 100% every single time. and his range is way wider than just better flushes.

[nuggetz87]

call river