Two Plus Two Newer Archives  

Go Back   Two Plus Two Newer Archives > Tournament Poker > STT Strategy
FAQ Community Calendar Today's Posts Search

Reply
 
Thread Tools Display Modes
  #1  
Old 02-10-2007, 09:54 AM
NYCNative NYCNative is offline
Senior Member
 
Join Date: Apr 2005
Location: Philadelphia, PA
Posts: 1,690
Default Decent but not great hand on the button with several limpers

PokerStars No-Limit Hold'em Tourney, Big Blind is t20 (9 handed) internettexasholdem.com

CO (t1500)
Hero (t1490)
SB (t1480)
BB (t1300)
UTG (t1300)
UTG+1 (t1930)
MP1 (t1500)
MP2 (t1500)
MP3 (t1500)

Preflop: Hero is Button with A[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img], J[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img].
<font color="#666666">1 fold</font>, UTG+1 calls t20, <font color="#666666">1 fold</font>, MP2 calls t20, <font color="#666666">2 folds</font>, Hero...

This situation always perplexes me. I want to blow things up with a raise and take it down right there but at lower level SNGs people will call even a high raise early and out of position with a wide variety of holdings (and of course the blinds can wake up with a legitimate hand here). If I miss the flop, I am commiting a lot of chips with a margial hand. Folding seems extremely weak also so I have been calling in these kinds of situations - AT, AJ, sometimes even AQ, pockets up to 99. I would get away from TPTK with heavy action if need be and I still lose less than if I raised but I can win these kinds of hands enough thanks to position where I think calling is better than folding although I do not have data to back that up and it would be a small sample size regardless. What do the great SNG minds here do in such cases?
Reply With Quote
  #2  
Old 02-10-2007, 09:57 AM
K䲰䮥n K䲰䮥n is offline
Senior Member
 
Join Date: May 2006
Posts: 3,616
Default Re: Decent but not great hand on the button with several limpers

add buy-in. read FAQ.
Reply With Quote
  #3  
Old 02-10-2007, 09:58 AM
K䲰䮥n K䲰䮥n is offline
Senior Member
 
Join Date: May 2006
Posts: 3,616
Default Re: Decent but not great hand on the button with several limpers

I'm so lovely today [img]/images/graemlins/laugh.gif[/img]
Reply With Quote
  #4  
Old 02-10-2007, 10:01 AM
NYCNative NYCNative is offline
Senior Member
 
Join Date: Apr 2005
Location: Philadelphia, PA
Posts: 1,690
Default Re: Decent but not great hand on the button with several limpers

I did say "lower level SNGs" however to be more specific, I mean $5+.50 through $20+2.
Reply With Quote
  #5  
Old 02-10-2007, 10:36 AM
Finnisher Finnisher is offline
Senior Member
 
Join Date: Oct 2006
Location: Åbo
Posts: 1,117
Default Re: Decent but not great hand on the button with several limpers

I usually fold this and limp suited. What do you think is your EV of playing AJo here? I doubt it's that much. I want to keep myself out of possibly tricky situations (for me) and just play the better hands strong. There's no need to go after small edges at the early levels of a low buy-in STT, keeping it simple is good enough.
Reply With Quote
  #6  
Old 02-10-2007, 10:58 AM
Scotty_12 Scotty_12 is offline
Senior Member
 
Join Date: Apr 2006
Location: Stoxpoker Coach
Posts: 1,282
Default Re: Decent but not great hand on the button with several limpers

^ Likewise. And I am limping 22-TT in this spot, raising JJ+ and AK probably to 100
Reply With Quote
  #7  
Old 02-10-2007, 11:28 AM
ChrisV ChrisV is offline
Senior Member
 
Join Date: Jul 2004
Location: Adelaide, Australia
Posts: 5,104
Default Re: Decent but not great hand on the button with several limpers

To be honest you won't lose much edge just folding here, but if you want to be the best player you can be, you should raise. You have the best position and are likely to have the best hand. Not raising is basically admitting that you don't know how to play well.
Reply With Quote
  #8  
Old 02-10-2007, 11:58 AM
Kibby Kibby is offline
Senior Member
 
Join Date: Dec 2005
Location: pwning medical billing
Posts: 1,545
Default Re: Decent but not great hand on the button with several limpers

I fold here.

[ QUOTE ]
To be honest you won't lose much edge just folding here, but if you want to be the best player you can be, you should raise. You have the best position and are likely to have the best hand. Not raising is basically admitting that you don't know how to play well.

[/ QUOTE ]
Reply With Quote
  #9  
Old 02-10-2007, 12:03 PM
Sciencekid Sciencekid is offline
Member
 
Join Date: Aug 2006
Location: Coaching upto 50nl, PM me.
Posts: 61
Default Re: Decent but not great hand on the button with several limpers

[ QUOTE ]
^ Likewise. And I am limping 22-TT in this spot, raising JJ+ and AK probably to 100

[/ QUOTE ]
Reply With Quote
  #10  
Old 02-10-2007, 12:29 PM
DaN_05 DaN_05 is offline
Senior Member
 
Join Date: Aug 2005
Location: England
Posts: 2,453
Default Re: Decent but not great hand on the button with several limpers

Yeah I'd limp 22-TT and raise JJ+ and AK but also AQ all to t100.
Reply With Quote
Reply


Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off

Forum Jump


All times are GMT -4. The time now is 04:09 PM.


Powered by vBulletin® Version 3.8.11
Copyright ©2000 - 2024, vBulletin Solutions Inc.