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Old 07-09-2007, 04:38 AM
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Default 2 imitation style hands.

Same villian in both these hands.

Second hand occcurs shortly after the first.

Villian is 26.5/19.5/2 WtSD is 30 Aggressive, somewhat thinking and I think somewhat tight postflop (obviously I think that otherwise my play is possibly even stupider).

I have a pretty agro never lay down approach in this game, I think he knows that I will semi-bluff and bluff raise alot.

Absolute Poker
Limit Holdem Ring game
Limit: $2/$4
6 players
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Pre-flop: (6 players) Hero is BB with 9[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] 5[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img]
4 folds, <font color="#cc0000">SB raises</font>, Hero calls.

Flop: 6[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] 4[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] 4[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] (4SB, 2 players)
SB checks, Hero checks.

Turn: 7[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] (2BB, 2 players)
<font color="#cc0000">SB bets</font>, <font color="#cc0000">Hero raises</font>, ...

Absolute Poker
Limit Holdem Ring game
Limit: $2/$4
6 players
Converter

Pre-flop: (6 players) Hero is BB with J[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] 5[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img]
3 folds, Button calls, SB calls, Hero checks.

Flop: Q[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] 6[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] J[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] (3SB, 3 players)
<font color="#cc0000">SB bets</font>, <font color="#cc0000">Hero raises</font>, Button calls, SB calls.

Turn: 7[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] (4.5BB, 3 players)
SB checks, Hero checks, Button checks.

River: 6[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] (4.5BB, 3 players)
<font color="#cc0000">SB bets</font>, <font color="#cc0000">Hero raises</font>, ...

I think these hands might actually be totally sucky and spewy actually.
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Old 07-09-2007, 05:20 AM
Gurravasa Gurravasa is offline
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Default Re: 2 imitation style hands.

First hand: I guess your setting upp a river bluff with your semibluffraise on turn? It could work since you could hit that flop an turn from BB. I guess you bet/fold any rivercard except if you complete your straight? Normally I wouldn't try this in such a small pot if I wasn't quite sure it would work against this particular player.

Second hand: I can't see any good reason to raise river since he won't fold any hand that beat you and you will loose an extra BB much more often than you gain one.
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Old 07-09-2007, 05:32 AM
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Default Re: 2 imitation style hands.

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I think these hands might actually be totally sucky and spewy actually.

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I agree.
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Old 07-09-2007, 07:34 AM
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Default Re: 2 imitation style hands.

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I think these hands might actually be totally sucky and spewy actually.

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I agree.

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The only 2 streets I agree with in these two hands are preflop in both. IMO you misplayed postflop badly in both hands.
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Old 07-09-2007, 12:51 PM
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Default Re: 2 imitation style hands.

i agree guys but i just wanted to post them cause i basically never have interesting hands that stand out as bad to me.

the only point and i talked with a friend about this on messenger that i can't really find an answer for is the flop in hand 2.
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Old 07-09-2007, 12:52 PM
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Default Re: 2 imitation style hands.

oh and guess which one worked and which one didn't
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Old 07-09-2007, 01:02 PM
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Default Re: 2 imitation style hands.

Hand is is basically you deciding you don't know how to play poker.

pf is obv standard.

Then the flop/turn/river combo show you really had no concept of continuity between streets.
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Old 07-09-2007, 01:07 PM
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Default Re: 2 imitation style hands.

dude i know hand 2 is terrible overall but what do you do on the flop?
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Old 07-09-2007, 01:11 PM
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Default Re: 2 imitation style hands.

Depends on the donker.

But what I was saying is -

if raising the flop is correct, checking the turn is incorrect, and if checking the turn is correct, raising the river is incorrect.
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Old 07-09-2007, 01:20 PM
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Default Re: 2 imitation style hands.

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Depends on the donker.

But what I was saying is -

if raising the flop is correct, checking the turn is incorrect, and if checking the turn is correct, raising the river is incorrect.

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What Danza said. I also think his point about lack of continuity applies to hand 1 - if you have a semi-bluffy image, what hand can you hold that A) the turn helped and B) you wouldn't have bet the flop; and C) you wouldn't have 3 bet pre? You're basically repping exactly K7 on the turn, which is a minuscule portion of your defending range.
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