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Old 08-31-2007, 01:26 PM
nazahl nazahl is offline
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Default tptk vs. heat from unknown

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Full Tilt No-Limit Hold'em, $0.50 BB (5 handed) Hand History Converter Tool from FlopTurnRiver.com (Format: 2+2 Forums)

saw flop|<font color="#C00000">saw showdown</font>

BB ($50.75)
UTG ($102.80)
MP ($49.30)
Button ($112.20)
Hero ($49.35)

Preflop: Hero is SB with A[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img], K[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img].
<font color="#666666">2 folds</font>, Button calls $0.50, <font color="#CC3333">Hero raises to $2.25</font>, BB calls $1.50, Button folds.

Flop: ($4.75) K[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img], Q[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img], T[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(2 players)</font>
<font color="#CC3333">Hero bets $3.2</font>, <font color="#CC3333">BB raises to $9</font>, Hero calls $5.80.

Turn: ($22.75) Q[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(2 players)</font>
Hero checks, <font color="#CC3333">BB bets $15</font>, Hero folds.

Final Pot: $22.75

standard?
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Old 08-31-2007, 05:08 PM
Milky Milky is offline
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Default Re: tptk vs. heat from unknown

Raise more pf, bet more on the flop, otherwise I play it the same. Someone please let me know if there's a better line.
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Old 08-31-2007, 05:09 PM
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Default Re: tptk vs. heat from unknown

Standard.
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Old 08-31-2007, 05:19 PM
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Default Re: tptk vs. heat from unknown

I think there's a case for folding to the flop raise, especially if you bet a little more. Villain has 1) two pair+, 2) a straight draw, or 3) a worse pair. Many better players don't have lots of worse pairs as a big part of their range, and worse players are usually going to be more passive with (3). If you c/f turn, you lose whenever Villain has (1), whenever the straight hits if Villain has (2), and whenever Villain bets again with either (2) or (3). Even if Villain takes the free card on the turn with (2), he has a fair bit of equity against you on the flop.

I probably play it the same in the heat of the moment, but I think this might be a situation where you have to fold the possible best hand due to positional weakness.
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Old 08-31-2007, 05:26 PM
AFCBeer AFCBeer is offline
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Default Re: tptk vs. heat from unknown

If we call the $5.8 what is our plan on the turn? If it is to check-fold to any decent bet then this is a spew as we should just fold the flop.

What would you have done without another Q or a complete blank on the turn? I'm really not a fan of calling large bets to check-fold the next round.
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Old 08-31-2007, 05:36 PM
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Default Re: tptk vs. heat from unknown

I'd fold to the flop raise.
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