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Re: a river c/r bluff
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I think you get looked up here unless he was bluffing himself. [/ QUOTE ] yea i think thats a big part of why i did it. I think he's bluffing himself a lot here, and if not, i might still be behind to his slightly higher bitch-pair, so i need to get him off it. this is also a reason why my c/r isnt so big. i dont expect to get him off a real hand even with a big c/r, but it doesnt take much to get him off a [censored] pair. |
#12
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Re: a river c/r bluff
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dudes he never has trips or a boat given flop/turn action, come on now. [/ QUOTE ] As for trips, I agree its very unlikely, but I don't agree with this assessment when talking about a flush. |
#13
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Re: a river c/r bluff
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dudes he never has trips or a boat given flop/turn action, come on now. [/ QUOTE ] But he could have a flush. |
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Re: a river c/r bluff
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dudes he never has trips or a boat given flop/turn action, come on now. [/ QUOTE ] so what the hell does he have? i don't think he calls turn with a flush draw, unless maybe it's something like JhTh and even then i'm not sure. a big pair makes sense for flop/turn action, but i don't think he'd bet the river with a hand like that. so i don't know what he has. |
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Re: a river c/r bluff
I'm having a hard time putting villain on a range, but I wouldn't be totally surprised to see him have a flush, or a pair like TT/JJ (especially with a heart). Also possible is a bluff - most likely with JT - but it's a little tricky to put him on many drawing hands that missed and want to turn themselves into a bluff.
Combined with the strangeness of the river check/raise I think you get looked up light and fold few better hands. There could be some tendency of live players that I don't understand that makes this better than it appears (i.e. river check/raise only means the nuts or something), but without that context I don't like it. |
#16
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Re: a river c/r bluff
i would make the river c/r to like 14-1500 if i was going to do this.
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Re: a river c/r bluff
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[ QUOTE ] I think you get looked up here unless he was bluffing himself. [/ QUOTE ] yea i think thats a big part of why i did it. I think he's bluffing himself a lot here, and if not, i might still be behind to his slightly higher bitch-pair, so i need to get him off it. this is also a reason why my c/r isnt so big. i dont expect to get him off a real hand even with a big c/r, but it doesnt take much to get him off a [censored] pair. [/ QUOTE ] I'd be a little surprised if he bet a weak pair for value, or turned it into a bluff against your line on this board. Your line doesn't look like it's leading to a fold unless you have something that his weak pair would beat anyway so there's not much value or fold equity of better hands. In spite of all that I do agree with your reasoning about the size of the check/raise. |
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Re: a river c/r bluff
***, its an online game, theres just no converter for it that i'm aware of.
vish, what part of his hand range will 1500 get him off of that 950 won't? |
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Re: a river c/r bluff
i think this is an overpair a ton of the time, so id make it slightly larger on the river. nothing else really makes sense, agree that boat is unlikely w/ no attempt to build pot, and surely a flush draw bets the flop.
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