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Old 05-30-2007, 01:59 PM
mak15 mak15 is offline
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Default AK for top two (NL600)

villain is 28/5/1. he multi tables and ive seen him on a lot lately so maybe hes not a loser but does seem like one.

PokerStars Pot-Limit Hold'em, $6 BB (9 handed) Hand History Converter Tool from FlopTurnRiver.com (Format: 2+2 Forums)

CO ($472.10)
Button ($205.05)
SB ($135.75)
BB ($651)
UTG ($588.45)
Hero ($1244.75)
MP1 ($901.20)
MP2 ($997.75)
MP3 ($438.90)

Preflop: Hero is UTG+1 with K[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img], A[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img].
UTG calls $6, <font color="#CC3333">Hero raises to $24</font>, <font color="#666666">6 folds</font>, BB calls $18, UTG calls $18.

Flop: ($75) K[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img], 6[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img], 4[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(3 players)</font>
BB checks, UTG checks, <font color="#CC3333">Hero bets $54</font>, BB folds, UTG calls $54.

Turn: ($183) A[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(2 players)</font>
UTG checks, Hero ?

Turn action and river plan?
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Old 05-30-2007, 02:04 PM
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Default Re: AK for top two (NL600)

he limped utg, usually that means small pairs which is pretty bad if its the case, but he has vpip 24 so that might not be the case. If his vpip would be smaller I would just check this behind since u have the Kd so he didn't pickup any outs on turn.

I really hate being check raised on turn here, but if that happens u must fold alot of times if u dont think he raises A6 and A4. Easiest way to play would ofcourse be to pot control it on turn and check and u shouldn't have too much problem just calling his healthy lead / bet yourself raise his weak lead.
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Old 05-30-2007, 02:33 PM
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Default Re: AK for top two (NL600)

if he often calls cbets bet.
if he often folds cbets check.
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Old 05-30-2007, 03:20 PM
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Default Re: AK for top two (NL600)

Raised2Win stated most of my thoughts as playing the hand...

of course if i know he will c/r with A6 and A4 i can bet/call the turn and if i know he will not i can bet/fold. unfortunately i had pretty much no idea if he would or not. i ended up checking behind turn figuring i can then at least get some value from a king on the river most likely.

River: ($183) 7[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(2 players)</font>
<font color="#CC3333">UTG bets $90</font>, Hero ?

Raise or call?
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Old 05-30-2007, 03:52 PM
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Default Re: AK for top two (NL600)

I'd definitely call this. I couldn't fold, and I hate two pair and often lose with it, so I'm not raising.

(I play micro, so take it for what it's worth -- a few cents.)
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Old 05-30-2007, 04:06 PM
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I hate two pair and often lose with it, so I'm not raising.

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obv this is poor logic.
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Old 05-30-2007, 04:15 PM
Albert Moulton Albert Moulton is offline
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Default Re: AK for top two (NL600)

[ QUOTE ]
Raised2Win stated most of my thoughts as playing the hand...

of course if i know he will c/r with A6 and A4 i can bet/call the turn and if i know he will not i can bet/fold. unfortunately i had pretty much no idea if he would or not. i ended up checking behind turn figuring i can then at least get some value from a king on the river most likely.

River: ($183) 7[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(2 players)</font>
<font color="#CC3333">UTG bets $90</font>, Hero ?

Raise or call?

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I'd call. I'd hate to get re-raised if I raise at the river since folding top 2-pair isn't a good option. Looks like villain is making a blocking bet or a trappy value bet. If it's a weak blocker, then he folds if you raise. But if he is stronger than 2-pair, then he'll reraise or push if you raise and you'll probably have a hard time justifying a fold with top 2-pair.
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Old 05-30-2007, 05:23 PM
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if he is stronger than 2-pair, then he'll reraise or push if you raise and you'll probably have a hard time justifying a fold with top 2-pair.

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i'm pretty sure if i raise it will be smallish and will fold to a 3bet. so the small chance of being valuebluffed off the best hand does of course hurt the value of a raise, but i think the chance of that is extremely slim.
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Old 05-30-2007, 05:25 PM
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[quoteIf it's a weak blocker, then he folds if you raise

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my thoughts are that he snap calls a small raise with any aces up and most likely calls with any two pair.
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Old 05-30-2007, 05:35 PM
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I would just call the river bet b/c I don't see a ton of value in a raise here. What is he calling the flop with? Maybe he limped with A6/A4s and will call a raise but he is folding or raising you all in with everything else.
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