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Old 08-12-2007, 02:28 PM
LoNeLyAcEs LoNeLyAcEs is offline
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Default some missed flops with KQo

I was review some missed flops there i thought i gave up to early or was not agressive enough because i checked all of them [img]/images/graemlins/laugh.gif[/img] , would be great to hear some advice, the tables are usually LP if i don't state anything else...

Limit Holdem Ring 10 seats game

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Pre-flop: (9 players) Hero is UTG with K[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] Q[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img]
<font color="#cc0000">Hero raises</font>, 3 folds, MP3 calls, CO calls, 2 folds, BB calls.

Flop: 9[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] 3[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] A[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] (8.67SB, 4 players)
BB checks, Hero ?.

gives this hand up right away? or is it worth a stab at this relatively big pot with this dry flop?

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Pre-flop: (9 players) Hero is MP2 with K[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] Q[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img]
UTG calls, UTG+1 calls, MP1 folds, <font color="#cc0000">Hero raises</font>, MP3 folds, CO calls, Button calls, SB folds, BB calls, UTG calls, UTG+1 calls.

Flop: T[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] 4[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] T[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] (12.67SB, 6 players)
BB, folds, UTG checks, UTG+1 checks, Hero ?.

dry board, only 1 villain behind try to fold him and maybe take a free card on the turn?

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Pre-flop: (10 players) Hero is UTG+2 with Q[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] K[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img]
UTG calls, UTG+1 folds, <font color="#cc0000">Hero raises</font>, 3 folds, CO calls, 2 folds, BB calls, UTG calls.

Flop: 8[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] 6[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] 9[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] (8.67SB, 4 players)
BB checks, UTG checks, Hero ?

flop is ugly but I have a BDFD, check seems best here...

(4)
Pre-flop: (10 players) Hero is CO with Q[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] K[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img]
2 folds, UTG+2 calls, MP1 calls, MP2 folds, MP3 calls, <font color="#cc0000">Hero raises</font>, Button calls, SB folds, BB calls, UTG+2 calls, MP1 calls, MP3 calls.

Flop: J[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] 9[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] 8[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] (12.67SB, 6 players)
BB checks, UTG+2 checks, MP1 checks, MP3 checks, Hero ?.

gut shut, but 2 suited board makes it not very valuable...

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Pre-flop: (9 players) Hero is MP3 with K[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] Q[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img]
2 folds, MP1 calls, MP2 folds, <font color="#cc0000">Hero raises</font>, CO calls, Button folds, <font color="#cc0000">SB 3-bets</font>, BB calls, MP1 folds, Hero calls, CO calls.

Flop: 8[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] 5[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] 4[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] (10.33SB, 4 players)
<font color="#cc0000">SB bets</font>, BB calls, Hero ?

I called here, maybe a leak...

(7)
Pre-flop: (10 players) Hero is CO with K[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] Q[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img]
UTG folds, UTG+1 calls, UTG+2 folds, MP1 calls, MP2 folds, MP3 calls, <font color="#cc0000">Hero raises</font>, Button folds, SB calls, BB calls, UTG+1 calls, MP1 calls, MP3 folds.

Flop: T[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] A[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] 3[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] (11SB, 5 players)
SB checks, BB checks, UTG+1 checks, MP1 checks, Hero ?

seems noone has a flush draw, bet here for a free card on turn?

(8)
Pre-flop: (10 players) Hero is CO with K[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] Q[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img]
UTG folds, UTG+1 calls, UTG+2 folds, MP1 calls, MP2 folds, MP3 calls, <font color="#cc0000">Hero raises</font>, 3 folds, UTG+1 calls, MP1 calls, MP3 calls.

Flop: 6[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] 4[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] 4[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] (9.67SB, 4 players)
UTG+1 checks, MP1 checks, MP3 checks, Hero ?.

dry flop, bet for a free card on turn?
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Old 08-12-2007, 02:52 PM
Sushiglutton Sushiglutton is offline
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Default Re: some missed flops with KQo

I would:

1:check (bad board too many opps)
2:bet (may have best hand only two villains)
3: bet (tough one but a bet may give us FC. Without BDFD I check)
4: check, too many opps and very co-ordinated board. We have a weak draw.
6: fold (We have less than 3outs on average not closing the action. We will never hit a hand we feel good about, so our implied odds sucks)
7: check, take ur FC to the gut shot. Very co-ordinated board and many opps.
8: Bet. Really ragged board. Big pot, see what happens.
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Old 08-12-2007, 02:53 PM
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Default Re: some missed flops with KQo

bet the paired board ones and the A39. check the rest.
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Old 08-12-2007, 03:03 PM
ThierryHenry ThierryHenry is offline
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Default Re: some missed flops with KQo

Hand 1: I'm not a fan of raising KQo UTG 9 handed. Bet flop and hope to win it there. Give up if called.

Hand 2: A few too many people for a bet to win on the flop. I check.

Hand 3: You're going to call a flop bet anyways, might as well bet for the slight chance everybody folds.

Hand 4:I don't like the PF raise. You already have 3 limpers and by raising you are building a big pot with a hand that doesn't want a big pot. As played take the freebie.

NO hand 5

Hand 6: Fold. Too likely to be dominated.

Hand 7:Again I don't like the PF raise. Take the free card.

Hand 8:I like a flop bet.
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Old 08-12-2007, 03:53 PM
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Default Re: some missed flops with KQo

TL;DR

Less than 2 hands a post please.
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Old 08-12-2007, 04:05 PM
KaatzMeow KaatzMeow is offline
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Default Re: some missed flops with KQo

Grunch 1

Pre-flop: I would not have raised

Flop: I would check because I would not expect the other 3 to fold to a continuation bet.

Gunch 2

Pre-flop: As played is good.

Flop: Check too.

Grunch 3

Pre-Flop: Again I would not raise in middle position,

Flop: Check too.

Grunch 4

Pre-flop: As played.

Flop: I check here too.

Grunch 6

Pre-flop: I would not raise here.

Flop: Fold

Grunch 7

Pre-flop: Good raise!

Flop: My gut feeling here is to bet only because we are in LP and no overcards.
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