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Old 09-21-2007, 09:31 AM
skibbel skibbel is offline
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Default 88 - third pair OOP vs unkown

I think it doesnt matter for the hand it's fr.

3-4 hands earlier with same villian:

Hero ($100)
BB ($98.05)


Preflop: Hero is SB with K[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img], Q[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img].
<font color="#666666">6 folds</font>, <font color="#CC3333">Hero raises to $4</font>, BB calls $3.

Flop: ($8) K[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img], 7[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img], T[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(2 players)</font>
<font color="#CC3333">Hero bets $6</font>, BB calls $6.

Turn: ($20) 3[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(2 players)</font>
<font color="#CC3333">Hero bets $16</font>, <font color="#CC3333">BB raises to $40</font>, <font color="#CC3333">Hero raises to $90</font>, BB calls $48.05 (All-In).

River: ($196.10) J[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(2 players, 1 all-in)</font>

Hero lost to T3s, no other history/reads

now the hand:
PokerStars No-Limit Hold'em, $1.00 BB (8 handed)

MP1 ($95.25)
MP2 ($72.90)
CO ($105.70)
Button ($68.40)
Hero ($101.50)
BB ($194.10)
UTG ($18.50)
UTG+1 ($19.50)

Preflop: Hero is SB with 8[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img], 8[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img].
<font color="#666666">6 folds</font>, <font color="#CC3333">Hero raises to $4</font>, BB calls $3.

Flop: ($8) 2[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img], 6[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img], Q[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(2 players)</font>
<font color="#CC3333">Hero bets $6</font>, BB calls $6.

Turn: ($20) J[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(2 players)</font>
Hero ???
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Old 09-21-2007, 10:06 AM
TheKitbag TheKitbag is offline
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Default Re: 88 - third pair OOP vs unkown

I dont really like the first hand. Unless I know he's super aggro i dont wanna be stacking off with QK on this board.

Anyway ... He's shown that he will call your raise with atc and then call a flop bet with middle pair. I probably bet ~$16 on the turn and fold to a reraise
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Old 09-21-2007, 10:10 AM
kolotoure kolotoure is offline
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Default Re: 88 - third pair OOP vs unkown

First hand is really bad, fold to the turn raise

Second hand, I lead again
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Old 09-21-2007, 01:40 PM
shpanko shpanko is offline
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Default Re: 88 - third pair OOP vs unkown

fold to turn raise in 1st hand, yeah I like bet/folding turn in second hand.
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Old 09-21-2007, 01:57 PM
mertzo mertzo is offline
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Default Re: 88 - third pair OOP vs unkown

wow b/f really? i always c/f or c/c depending on floating history etc, always.

i think 88 is way to bad to protect with and hell call you with all sorts of Js and other crap putting you on a draw
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Old 09-21-2007, 02:03 PM
chiTown22 chiTown22 is offline
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Default Re: 88 - third pair OOP vs unkown

In the first hand, as stated above, without a read a single pair is no good against a turn raise.

On the second hand, bet the turn as a second shot bluff, shut down to resistance and try to get to showdown as cheap as possible.
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