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07-18-2007, 04:23 PM
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Re: What did Yang have when Childs folded QQ?
I agree with El D and Technologic. I am curious how much Childs played with Yang in the days leading up to the FT. Once you saw how much Yang overvalued hands and how much he reraised, I don't think you could ever fold that.
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07-18-2007, 04:39 PM
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Re: What did Yang have when Childs folded QQ?
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I agree with El D and Technologic. I am curious how much Childs played with Yang in the days leading up to the FT. Once you saw how much Yang overvalued hands and how much he reraised, I don't think you could ever fold that. [/ QUOTE ] From that hand onwards, he ran over the table more or less. At first review (didn't watch PPV) of hand histories, it sounds like he managed to take marginal chances that he could afford while still captaining the table, much like Jamie Gold last year. He obviously played well leading up to the final table, but I didn't follow his path... did he play very much like this the whole way through? -Z
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07-18-2007, 05:03 PM
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Re: What did Yang have when Childs folded QQ?
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I think Yang had QQ beat [/ QUOTE ] agree. his AI raise was instantaneous, and from the rest of the ft, he definitely did not come off as the kind of player that would act that quickly with anything that QQ beat.
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07-18-2007, 05:09 PM
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Re: What did Yang have when Childs folded QQ?
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i say when all's said and done, that fold will haunt childs for the rest of his life [/ QUOTE ]
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07-18-2007, 05:10 PM
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Re: What did Yang have when Childs folded QQ?
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I wouldn't be surprised if it was something like A5 clubs or some other hand that would be pretty much a coinflip. I don't think I fold there, but all credit to Yang. Putting other people to tough decisions is a huge part of the game. [/ QUOTE ] I don't think this should have been a tough decision.
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07-18-2007, 05:12 PM
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Re: What did Yang have when Childs folded QQ?
Before Hand #1:
Raymond Rahme - 16.32 million Alex Kravchenko - 6.57 million Lee Childs - 13.24 million Jerry Yang - 8.45 million Lee Watkinson - 9.925 million Tuan Lam - 21.315 million Philip Hilm - 22.07 million Jon Kalmar - 20.32 million Hevad 'Rain' Khan - 9.205 million QQ hand was #11. Puts Jerry Yang ~ 20 million After winning a big pot in hand #14, Jerry Yang ~ 25 million After Hand #15 (Hilm knocked out) Raymond Rahme - 16.28 million Alex Kravchenko - 4.89 million Lee Childs - 6.69 million Jerry Yang - 44.88 million Lee Watkinson - 9.295 million Tuan Lam - 20.775 million Jon Kalmar - 17.51 million Hevad 'Rain' Khan - 7.095 million After Hand #21 (Watkinson knocked out) Raymond Rahme - 15.74 million Alex Kravchenko - 4.95 million Lee Childs - 6.15 million Jerry Yang - 55.015 million Tuan Lam - 20.595 million Jon Kalmar - 17.21 million Hevad 'Rain' Khan - 7.755 million
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07-18-2007, 05:22 PM
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Re: What did Yang have when Childs folded QQ?
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I agree with El D and Technologic. I am curious how much Childs played with Yang in the days leading up to the FT. Once you saw how much Yang overvalued hands and how much he reraised, I don't think you could ever fold that. [/ QUOTE ] IIRC, Yang didn't play like that at all in getting to the final table. The rep on him was weak-tight. I could be wrong.
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07-18-2007, 05:27 PM
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Re: What did Yang have when Childs folded QQ?
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[ QUOTE ] I agree with El D and Technologic. I am curious how much Childs played with Yang in the days leading up to the FT. Once you saw how much Yang overvalued hands and how much he reraised, I don't think you could ever fold that. [/ QUOTE ] IIRC, Yang didn't play like that at all in getting to the final table. The rep on him was weak-tight. I could be wrong. [/ QUOTE ] no you're completely right other than being a little aggressive, yang hadn't gotten out of line whatsoever during the hands prior in the wsop thread, the consensus seemed that it was a good fold
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07-18-2007, 05:39 PM
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Re: What did Yang have when Childs folded QQ?
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[ QUOTE ] [ QUOTE ] I agree with El D and Technologic. I am curious how much Childs played with Yang in the days leading up to the FT. Once you saw how much Yang overvalued hands and how much he reraised, I don't think you could ever fold that. [/ QUOTE ] IIRC, Yang didn't play like that at all in getting to the final table. The rep on him was weak-tight. I could be wrong. [/ QUOTE ] no you're completely right other than being a little aggressive, yang hadn't gotten out of line whatsoever during the hands prior in the wsop thread, the consensus seemed that it was a good fold [/ QUOTE ] Which begs the question, either the deck totally clobbered him early on, or he decided to go totally apeshit and start crushing people. The former is much easier to believe in the latter, which means he could have QQ crushed. He could also have JJ or TT and believed he was far ahead.
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