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Old 08-05-2007, 07:21 PM
kamel kamel is offline
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Default 2/4 FR, Betting AKo UI in 3players, Playing TPBK passiv glad to reads

I'd be glad to hear your valueable advice in 2 hands, played on 2/4 FR on stars.

1) None of these villains were known to me, for at least they are no 2/4 regulars.

PokerStars 2.00/4.00 Limit Hold'em <font color="#0000FF">(9 handed)</font> HandRecorder v0.9b

Preflop: Hero is UTG+2 with A[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img], K[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img]
<font color="#666666">1 folds</font>, <font color="#FF0000">Hero raises</font>, <font color="#666666">2 folds</font>, MP3 calls, CO calls, <font color="#666666">1 folds</font>, SB calls, BB folds\.

Flop: (9 SB) 2[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img], 9[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img], 5[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(4 players)</font>
SB checks, <font color="#FF0000">Hero bets</font>, MP3 calls, <font color="#FF0000">CO raises</font>, SB folds, Hero calls, MP3 calls.

Turn: (7.50 BB) 4[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(3 players)</font>
Hero checks, MP3 checks, <font color="#FF0000">CO bets</font>, Hero calls, MP3 calls.

River: (10.50 BB) Q[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(3 players)</font>
Hero checks, MP3 checks, CO checks\.

Final Pot: 10.50 BB.

Here, my main interest is the betting-out on the flop with UI AK facing a family pot OOP. When I played, I thought, that not so many hands will connect (hard) with this flop, so I even still might have the best hand or the best draw and I didn't want everybody to know, I have unimproved overcards.
When I stoved against a &gt;30% range villains might have (might be reasonable), I found I have a slighte equity disadvantage.
However, my main wondering is: Is there any point betting out unimproved AK on those dry flops?

2) Allthough not many hands, I noted that BU liked also to limp with good Ax and played them passive when faced with bets and especially raises (I've seen him calling down Top2)

PokerStars 2.00/4.00 Limit Hold'em <font color="#0000FF">(9 handed)</font> HandRecorder v0.9b

Stats
BU (50/0/0.47/57) (28h)
MP3 (17/5/2.75/20) (143h)

Preflop: Hero is BB with 5[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img], A[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img]
<font color="#666666">4 folds</font>, MP3 calls, <font color="#666666">1 folds</font>, BU calls, <font color="#666666">1 folds</font>, Hero checks\.

Flop: (3.50 SB) A[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img], K[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img], 2[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(3 players)</font>
Hero checks, MP3 checks, <font color="#FF0000">BU bets</font>, Hero calls, MP3 folds\.

Turn: (2.75 BB) 3[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(2 players)</font>
Hero checks, BU checks\.

River: (2.75 BB) 9[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(2 players)</font>
<font color="#FF0000">Hero bets</font>, BU calls.

Final Pot: 4.75 BB.

Here I tried to find a line between potcontrol and valuebetting.
Given the 2 player types (aggressive MP, loose-passive BU), I decided that it might be worth to play that hand different from textbook. I first wanted to see who bets and then to decide how to react.
As the passive player bet on an Ace-Flop, I didn't want to blow the pot, so I only called and checked the turn.
River of course was betting for value.
Is this just fancy play or is there any point in making these plays?
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