STTF SNG->cash thread

[cha59]

Slim - what Devin said.

The reason why I call the river is because he bet small enough and is going to have AdXo and other random crap frequently enough to make calling profitable. I think you lose more often than not, but you're priced in.

[wuwei]

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Well, I didn't get many responses.

I was really curious what people would think MP might have cause I was actually MP. I wanted to see how people would interpret my line to see how affective it might be.

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Hi Devin,

CCing an utg open in MP1 is a little, uh, hard to read? I have trouble putting an unknown TAG on an A there. Most guys just dont CC aces there - they 3-bet the big ones and fold the rest. I expect to see mid pairs there, most of the time. So it's 66 and maybe a big A ahead of our QQ, or air, and a lot of guys won't pop the flop with the nuts. Also, I would think 66 should bet the turn, because the most likely hand to call a flop raise is an A, so let's get stacks in.

So if you had a big A, I dig it. If you had 66, I'd like to bet the turn. If you had air, hmm, I think you get looked up most of the time by a guy who calls the flop raise.

[wuwei]

Slim,

Stack sizes + flop texture make that a tough spot for a c/r. Just lead. Call river.

[DevinLake]

Here's the actual hand:

Party Poker No-Limit Hold'em, $6 BB (6 handed) Hand History converter Courtesy of PokerZion.com

saw flop|<font color="#C00000">saw showdown</font>

<font color="#C00000">UTG ($600)</font>
<font color="#C00000">Hero ($600)</font>
CO ($842.10)
Button ($790.05)
SB ($779)
BB ($161.60)

Preflop: Hero is MP with Q[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img], A[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img].
<font color="#CC3333">UTG raises to $22</font>, Hero calls $22, <font color="#666666">4 folds</font>.

Flop: ($53) 6[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img], A[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img], A[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(2 players)</font>
<font color="#CC3333">UTG bets $40</font>, <font color="#CC3333">Hero raises to $125</font>, UTG calls $85.

Turn: ($303) 7[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(2 players)</font>
UTG checks, Hero insta checks.

River: ($303) 6[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(2 players)</font>
UTG checks, <font color="#CC3333">Hero bets $200</font>, UTG calls $200.

Final Pot: $703

Results in white below: <font color="#FFFFFF">
UTG has Qh Qc (two pair, aces and queens).
Hero has Qs Ac (full house, aces full of sixes).
Outcome: Hero wins $703. </font>

[wuwei]

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Here's the actual hand:

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I should have left it in my initial post, when I said I was pretty sure you had AQ after you swapped hero and villain [img]/images/graemlins/smile.gif[/img]

I think you played the hand really well. Flop raise is deceptive and nice, turn check is good after you get called on flop, and the river check to you means let's go to value town.

[jgunnip]

ship it Devin vvnh!

[Slim Pickens]

Basically readless very early in the session. This is where I have the most trouble because once you have reads, playing is easy. Am I Grand Central Station?

Full Tilt Poker
No Limit Holdem Ring game
Blinds: $0.50/$1
5 players
Converter

Stack sizes:
UTG: $101.50
CO: $130.75
Button: $67.10
SB: $133.90
Hero: $100

Pre-flop: (5 players) Hero is BB with J[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] Q[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img]
<font color="#cc0000">UTG raises to $3.5</font>, 3 folds, Hero calls.

Flop: 2[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] J[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] 7[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] ($7.5, 2 players)
Hero checks, <font color="#cc0000">UTG bets $6</font>, Hero calls.

Turn: T[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] ($19.5, 2 players)
Hero checks, <font color="#cc0000">UTG bets $16</font>, Hero calls.

River: 6[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] ($51.5, 2 players)
Hero checks, <font color="#cc0000">UTG bets $42.5</font>, Hero calls.

[DevinLake]

Pretty ugly slim. I just fold preflop. I have a very narrow calling range from the blinds. oop sucks.

You aren't really beating any thing. Spades didn't even miss. I'd fold the turn probably.

[jgunnip]

Slim, readless why even bother playing this hand against an UTG raise? OOP against a range that likely has you crushed. Grossness.

[Slim Pickens]

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Pretty ugly slim. I just fold preflop. I have a very narrow calling range from the blinds. oop sucks.

You aren't really beating any thing. Spades didn't even miss. I'd fold the turn probably.

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Yeah, that's pretty much what I thought.

Phase 1: recognize when I'm doing something stupid
Phase 2: stop doing stupid things in real-time (basically ???)
Phase 3: profit